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Author Topic: Color problems on Christie 2000SB Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-11-2010 04:34 AM                     quote: Brendan Penny Now here is a riddle for you. Why is NEC the only series 2 projector that you can get hold of at the moment?? Ermm!! Less known brand? Is it a rhetorical question or do I win anything?  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 07-11-2010 01:28 PM                       In Marks defense, I think; He is not a salesman, he just happens to change his mind rather abruptly, don't read too much into it. He probably fell in love rather quickly as a young man, but only guessing here.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-11-2010 04:34 PM                     I dunno...while he changes his mind with the wind...his "its great/its crap" style statements tend to be of a promoting, if not selling type nature. Having written so much about "Wrong" and now they are Strong again....if you are going to play, play...but this is a change of affiliation without any real change in substance. I think Brendan was spot on. In fact, I think it was a bit understated.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 07-11-2010 09:50 PM                        Did Regal cancel or delay some orders with NEC?  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-12-2010 12:52 AM                     Odeon Europe is putting Nec projectors from what I know and what is published in Cinema Technology Vol 23 No2 June 2010 issue so....  |  IP: Logged Brendan Penny Expert Film Handler Posts: 121 From: Bundoora, Australia Registered: Dec 2008 posted 07-13-2010 03:25 AM                     Well just to clarify I am not paying out on NEC at all. I am sure 'series 2' is probably a good range for NEC. I am only paying out on Mark for dissing everything he doesn't sell, use or understand.  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-14-2010 11:17 AM                     Mark might be a bit over the top with boosting the Nec Series 2 Projectors but I doubt he deserves anyone attacking as the forum rules say with no offence to anyone. Demetris  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 07-20-2010 09:27 AM                     quote: Brendan Penny I am only paying out on Mark for dissing everything he doesn't sell, use or understand. Brendan... I have used just about everything there is out there multiple times on multiple jobs. But in your defense how would you have known that? Sam, Actually... I was 26... Not too young or too old... Now to Strong's defense. A Strong Tech (one who is on this site in fact) showed up at one of the NEC locations I installed out in the middle of no where the other day to install an upgraded board. I thought that to be quite exceptional. Now in my 30+ years in this biz I have never had any other manufacturer EXCEPT DOLBY do this way back when there were DA-20 power supply issues. I believe that says alot about how Strong and NEC value it's customers and it's dealer base. Mark  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-20-2010 02:39 PM                     Oh please Mark, Christie and QSC both do that as well. Give it a rest or take a break from the forums for awhile. Within 6 months you will be condemning NEC and going crazy over Sony or some other manufacturer anyway with as frequent as you change your mind.  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-20-2010 03:25 PM                     Brad sometimes you can be really rude.I don't think anyone deserves that attitude. If you don't like peoples opinions then there is no reason of having these forums. I am not an advocate but this is too much. Demetris  |  IP: Logged Sam D. Chavez Film God Posts: 2153 From: Martinez, CA USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 07-20-2010 06:57 PM                       Demetris, Mark is a special case. We all know him for years and he does have a tendency to change his mind a lot, but never because of any advice. Has to do it on his own so we tend to hammer him when he gets out there. I've had field visits from QSC, Christie, Barco, etc., so don't see anything unusual about NEC showing up at a site.  |  IP: Logged Brendan Penny Expert Film Handler Posts: 121 From: Bundoora, Australia Registered: Dec 2008 posted 07-20-2010 09:46 PM                     Exactly. If you are going to post bs statements you better be prepared to either back it up or admit you were wrong. What's rude about asking for some actual substance to support comments? Normally I wouldn't even bother but the fact he has now resorted to upselling on unrelated posts is going too far. What does 'color problems on a christie' have to do with how good NEC is?? Demetris, Mark can post what he wants, as can anyone. There is no censorship here. But if you post shit well.... You gotta expect it don't you?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-21-2010 03:12 AM                     Demetris, I am sorry if you feel my direct and blunt comment is too much for your precious eyes to read, but Mark is a big boy as are the rest of the people here. Make no mistake, Mark is a good tech...its just that for some reason his opinion changes wildly and to extremes, often over the course of a matter of months. It is that radical and frequent change in opinion that we are teasing him over as well as his recent over-the-top sales pitches for the one company that can't seem to move their projectors while their competition (Barco and Christie) are 9 months backlogged with orders. Just do the math sweetie. quote: Demetris Thoupis Mark might be a bit over the top with boosting the Nec Series 2 Projectors but I doubt he deserves anyone attacking as the forum rules say with no offence to anyone. Hmmmm, and yet you violated rule #2 yourself in your follow up post. Go figure. This thread has turned into nothing but drama. I don't want to shut it down because it appears Greg hasn't found his answer, but lets drop the drama aspects with future posts to this thread please.  |  IP: Logged Demetris Thoupis Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1240 From: Aradippou, Larnaca, Cyprus Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-21-2010 10:34 AM                     I am not a Nec supporter but the reason for all the backorders of Christie and Barco come mainly from their wide dealer area. First of all Christie had a HUGE establishment with the 35mm in the US and they were from the first who pushed into the Digital realm even before D-Cinema started to take on. That gave them a leading advantage. Barco partnered wisely with the two biggest 35mm manufacturers in Europe to offer an OEM and also distribute the Barco D-Cinema solutions. And also I do support that the OEM partners yield better results than the actual Barco line and also have pioneered into modifications that Barco actually included in their Series 2 projectors. Let me tell you that I know that most of the deals in the European area for Barco utilising the smaller projectors are not handled directly by the Barco division but by the other two manufacturers. Nec on the other hand is the only company who had no connection to anyone in the film cinema industry, Strong excluded. Strong had no other choice than to partner with NEC since all the others were taken, and already Strong was having a smaller sales pitch of their 35mm. Now you do the math and see why NEC is not up to the sales the other companies are. I am not a Nec supporter nor have I sold any but they do deserve at least some amount of credit. Besides technicians wining about slow software e.t.c, clients cannot see the difference. And also, forum members who have Nec installed do not mention great problems. Christie though with the huge production line is bound to have a lot of DOA as well as a lot of unforseen issues. Even you Brad posted somewhere that you had an issue of the blue half screen with Christie and the only solution is just to restart the projector and God knows how many other problems there are with all these Digital stuff. Demetris  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-21-2010 12:48 PM                     I have never had a problem with a blue half screen. You are confusing that with someone else. Regardless as I said (and won't again, this is the final warning) the rest of this thread is for assisting Greg with his specific issue.  |  IP: Logged

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