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Carsten Kurz
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From: Cologne, NRW, Germany
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 - posted 12-30-2010 06:42 AM      Profile for Carsten Kurz   Email Carsten Kurz   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Mark Ogden
The digital acquired and generated material for Inception was scanned out to negative stock and cut into the shot-on-film footage, which was subsequently photochemically timed using traditional optical wedges. So while there was some digitally originated negative, there was NO D.I. process at all.

Interesting. While I do know what DI is, I didn't know they were actually doing this elaborate 'statement for film' workflow on Inception. I thought that at some point they would have done at least a complete 2k or 4k film recording.

- Carsten

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Martin McCaffery
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quote: Steve Guttag
I can show you thousands of Christie DCinema projectors that will prove that statement wrong.
And Christies are what they have. Considering how dim the picture was (compared to my 35mm anyway) I'm guessing they aren't using an anamorphic lens for the extra brightness.

I should have added that ALL of the titles were soft. The elaborate name titles just looked mushy, but the white on black end scroll credits bordered on unreadable.

So much for my annual excursion into the pop world [Wink]

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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If you saw things out of square, then it still may be possible that an anamorphic was used. However, if the image merely had a lean, then it could be that the projector was merely out of level (or the masking was...I've been seeing that a lot lately).

Christies normally have an exceptionally sharp focus so I suspect that the lens settings have not been optimized.

As for light, I've found Christies to be the most light efficient/watt. It is possible that the lamp was not well aligned, under-speced, run past its useful life, was not refocused to re-optimize the light after some use...etc.

In short, you should not have experienced the lack of quality given the equipment...however there are many factors that may have contributed to your lack-luster presentation.

-Steve

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Martin McCaffery
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"Lackluster" is just the word I've been looking for to describe almost every digital presentation I have seen in this town.

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Victor Liorentas
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What is the result on screen when the integrator rod goes bad?
I know of one bad one but have not seen it.

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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A "bad" integrator can cause a multitude of issues with the light...it may no longer be even, focused, right color...and the list goes on. The integrating rod is essentially a light pipe so all light must go through it and it must be perfectly focused on the imagers for one to avoid shadows or vignetting. One can greatly affect the light efficiency by precisely setting it.

So a damaged one could negatively affect all of the above.

-Steve

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