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Author Topic: T-REX is in town! (The official RPX, ETX, XD, T-Rex, etc etc thread) Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-07-2011 05:59 PM                     quote: I will have to check this tomorrow – Please stand by… Where do you suppose Surroud-EX came from?  |  IP: Logged Frank Angel Film God Posts: 5305 From: Brooklyn NY USA Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-09-2011 01:09 AM                        quote: Tom Petrov Do we really need 75,000 watts of sound? Only if 60% of it goes to extra subs!  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-09-2011 01:17 AM                     ^^ Just noticed the wrong quote in my post above ^^ quote: Bobby Henderson All those acronyms involving the letter "X" reminds me of porn. That's what I meant to quote!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 03-09-2011 02:55 AM                        I thought you were going to point out your failure in your attempt to spell the word "surround".  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-09-2011 06:28 AM                     Doh!  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 06-18-2011 07:04 PM                        I posted this in my review for the movie Super 8, but I don't think most people will read that. So I will post this here where it is more relevant: I recently saw Super 8 at the AMC Flatiron Crossing 14 in the ETX auditorium, #14. What follows is my experience. What does ETX stand for? It stands for (and this is factual information) Extreme Treble EXperience. I had a representative from AMC's corporate divulge the secret to how they make an ETX auditorium. First, they take a normal auditorium, make everything is digital and 3D, blah blah blah. Then (and this is the secret ingredient), they go into the EQ settings and turn the 4K for each speaker ALL THE WAY UP. Then, they take the surrounds and turn them down to about 75db instead of 83. Then they take the subwoofers and turn them down to about 45db. Then they turn off half of the subwoofer amps and saw off the power cords for the amplifiers to ensure very few low frequencies ever play in the auditorium. They want you feeling the treble on your skin, not the bass. Then they turn the volume knob to 8.5. That's it! Yup, that's right! AMC's ETX auditorium is a candidate for the worst-sounding movie theater I have ever heard. Any, and I mean ANY auditorium anywhere can achieve the same exact sound quality by following the instructions in the paragraph above, for free. It sounds very distorted and is physically painful to listen to, and I like my movies damn loud. It's just that AMC doesn't have anyone who knows how to EQ an auditorium to save their lives. There is nothing special at all about ETX and AMC charges much more for this. AMC is assuming the customer is a downright idiot. Nobody in the auditorium seemed impressed. In fact I think one guy in front of me might have went to complain early on because he mentioned it was loud during the ETX snipe (yes, they have an ETX snipe which is all volume, no surround and no sub). AMC claims 7.1 audio and 600 amps piping 20 million watts to 230 speakers or some bullshit that doesn't make a shit of difference. Big time failure here, AMC. I am a fan of good sound, why can't ANYONE in Colorado deliver? I have yet to "experience" Regal's RPX or Cinemark's XD disasters, however. The Tamarac Square 6 sounded much better and we were a piece of shit who had no business having good sound! ETX screens use all QSC equipment and come to find out, QSC did the EQ in this very auditorium themselves (not joking). QSC clearly doesn't know shit about EQing an auditorium, never let them touch your equipment, ever! Leave it to QSC to make their own products sound even worse than Klipsch crap. Also, the auditorium wasn't very large. It seems smaller than the medium auditoriums at Cinemark's Century Bel Mar theater.  |  IP: Logged Jonathan Goeldner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1360 From: Washington, District of Columbia Registered: Jun 2008 posted 06-19-2011 09:33 PM                     ^ really? at AMC Tysons Corner on their ETX screen, it's completely the opposite - the bass is so tight and so low, it literally rumbles the floors - during 'Battle Los Angeles' and 'Fast Five', you could hear the octaves drop in bass response. It's better than what I've heard on the XD screen over at the Egyptian (now if the projectionist can his or her act together and properly set the projector at it's correct light output signal)  |  IP: Logged Ken Lackner Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1907 From: Atlanta, GA, USA Registered: Sep 2001 posted 06-19-2011 10:03 PM                     quote: Joe Redifer ETX screens use all QSC equipment and come to find out, QSC did the EQ in this very auditorium themselves (not joking). QSC clearly doesn't know shit about EQing an auditorium, never let them touch your equipment, ever! Leave it to QSC to make their own products sound even worse than Klipsch crap. I don't know where you are getting your information from, but a buddy of mine from QSC would probably resent this.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 06-19-2011 10:56 PM                        Hi Ken. First of all, what makes you think I would give two shits if a buddy of yours from QSC would resent that? His tears are none of my concern. I call it like it is and I play no favorites. No loss on my side. If I kept my mouth shut, then it'd be more likely that things wouldn't change. Secondly, if he has anything to do with the ETX screen at the AMC Flatiron Crossing 14, he should be absolutely ashamed of his incompetent ass. Where am I getting that info from? Let's just say a source within AMC corporate. I will not be naming names. quote: Jonathan Goeldner now if the projectionist can his or her act together Projectionists have nothing to do with anything any more.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 06-20-2011 04:11 AM                     ...unless the projectionist went in after the sound tech and futz'd with the settings. I agree with Ken though, it would not be like the guys at QSC to tune a room poorly. I'm betting something else was involved.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 06-20-2011 03:08 PM                        Apparently it's the same two guys at QSC who do all of the ETX installs/tuning. I don't know their names.  |  IP: Logged

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