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Author Topic: Any Hard Digital Screen Numbers? Mike Frese Master Film Handler Posts: 465 From: Holts Summit, MO Registered: Jun 2007 posted 03-25-2011 10:52 PM                        Probably the most important number is how many locations a particular movie plays digitally. Recently a 3400+ location 2d movie played approx. 33% digital on the break while a 3400+location 3d movie played approx. 70% digital.  |  IP: Logged Ron Funderburg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 814 From: Chickasha, Oklahoma, USA Registered: Nov 2007 posted 03-25-2011 10:57 PM                        3D movies would be doing better lately if the movies themselves were better. A bad movie in 3D is still a bad movie.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 03-26-2011 12:54 AM                     Well yeah, that gets back to that old saying, "you can't polish a turd." But the bean counters are still going to punt endless numbers of sequels, remakes, send-ups of TV shows, super hero movies and anything else based on a previous source to sucker the fools in past the box office.  |  IP: Logged Ron Funderburg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 814 From: Chickasha, Oklahoma, USA Registered: Nov 2007 posted 03-26-2011 10:28 AM                        Oh I'm almost sick to death of sequels and remakes. TV shows turned to big screen and just plain stupid movies. In one degree or another that has been the same it is just more of the same now.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 03-26-2011 12:29 PM                     'Digifying' ? Here's my smart ass comment: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neologism - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Mike Frese Master Film Handler Posts: 465 From: Holts Summit, MO Registered: Jun 2007 posted 03-26-2011 03:00 PM                        To get back on topic. That 70% 3d I mention were all digital as it was from a studio that does not support film 3d. Since most of theaters that have started to add digital are going 100% digital (for many they have to in order to get VPFs), you could assume that we will be at 70% digital in less than 12-18 mos for movies that play on the national release date. To get off topic, whatever brings people to come see a movie at the theater is okay with me.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 03-26-2011 06:05 PM                     My numbers are not consistent with you. We will not even be near 50% in the next 18-months. Those that are looking for VPFs are indeed accelerating their pace (we are doing two complexes, thus far, by this summer due to the VPF deal)...however we have others that have done digital for 3D only and have stated that they are doing NONE this year...maybe one 2D next year. The fact of the matter is...digital doesn't bring any more customers in...it is a net (financial) loss, at this point. As the VPF deals vanish (they are already starting to get less attractive)...I predict a digital slow-down. And digifying...that is my word (or I have used it without prior knowledge of others using it)...any by extension, digification is one I use too. -Steve  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-27-2011 12:41 AM                        quote: Steve Guttag The fact of the matter is...digital doesn't bring any more customers in... Are there really people who thought it WOULD bring more customers in? I will say that there are at least a half-dozen films, maybe more, that we were able to get 2 or 3 weeks sooner because we are digital. So, films play sooner = higher gross, so from that standpoint it does help. Otherwise -- no. I never thought it would. My guess is by this time, about 90% of our audience has forgotten that we even got a new projector (if they even knew it in the first place).  |  IP: Logged Marin Zorica Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 671 From: Biograd na Moru, Croatia Registered: May 2003 posted 03-27-2011 03:41 AM                     They don't care for projector, sound systems etc, not all, but very most....I go to movies often, and most of the time I have some complains, because presentation is low on my standards. But one time, that isss sooo obvious, whole dialogue was on the left channel, except on center, I did spoke with some people in cinema in row next to me, nobody even notticed that.... As for dci, it won't be changed like cyan, I don't know why people always compare transfer from silver to cyan with 35mm to digital, cyan was just $600 upgrade to projector and nothing more, dci is something wayyy more expencive.  |  IP: Logged Mike Frese Master Film Handler Posts: 465 From: Holts Summit, MO Registered: Jun 2007 posted 03-27-2011 08:50 PM                        For the top 2500 or so locations, the VPFs are a no-brainer to go after. The VPFs plus booth labor savings pretty much pay for the conversion. I can't find a top chain that has not put plans in motion to make the conversion. What major chain or any 15+ chain is not doing a full conversion? The top 10 chains are approx. 1800 locations.  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 03-28-2011 04:57 AM                        The vpf only makes sense if you believe that the full term will be paid in full. I'm sorry, but I don't have that much faith in the studios fulfilling any contract. (This is starting to have religious overtones.) Louis  |  IP: Logged Scott Norwood Film God Posts: 8146 From: Boston, MA. USA (1774.21 miles northeast of Dallas) Registered: Jun 99 posted 03-28-2011 08:05 AM                        In any case, the VPF only helps with the initial installation. After that, the theatre owners are still responsible for long-term maintenance and upgrades, which will no doubt be more expensive than with 35mm. I still don't see the business case, unless one believes that "alternative content" and such will actually do something to increase attendance and/or justify higher ticket prices. Or, as Mike said, if DLP allows one to book titles that might not otherwise be available (which would also have the potential to increase attendance).  |  IP: Logged Ron Funderburg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 814 From: Chickasha, Oklahoma, USA Registered: Nov 2007 posted 03-28-2011 11:22 AM                        Steve they weren't my numbers and I didn't post them I just re-posted the figure in the article for North America. I think the real point is that there aren't any hard numbers on who many are in the works or how many have been done.  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 03-30-2011 03:45 AM                     An article in this week's Hollywood Reporter states that are 16,231 digital screens in the United States (8,963 3D-capable), and another 23,511 digital screens abroad (17,059 3D-capable). It doesn't say when those counts were valid through, but it does say about 100 digital screens are being installed weekly.  |  IP: Logged Ron Funderburg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 814 From: Chickasha, Oklahoma, USA Registered: Nov 2007 posted 03-30-2011 09:24 AM                        Edward are they saying where that information is coming from? If it is NATO or any source for that matter in is rather unusual and contentious Digital Cinema extend roll out it may or may not be accurate. The numbers you post suggest that when those committed screens are installed Digital will have most of the theaters in the country. If it is NATO and the CBG then the completion date is Sept. 30 next year for VFP's. Rock and a hard place for someone either do it or go out of business when the film companies either remove the paying for the movie and it being inside the flow of income. The print cost well go way up when there are only a few hundred being made. Sorry Steve about the other post you weren't talking to me I realized this when I read back though.  |  IP: Logged

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