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Cameron Glendinning
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 - posted 06-04-2011 09:03 PM      Profile for Cameron Glendinning   Email Cameron Glendinning   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well I have had no complaints with my panasonic AE 100E for blu ray projection yet with my fleet of outdoor movie screens, I only use it for the ones that are up to 16ft wide. For the larger screens I use it in presentation/ bright mode (2000 lumens)rather than the much darker movie mode (600 lumens). There have been issues with that model of projector and I had to send it in for a service for both iris and rare random purple flashes when connected through hdmi.

One of the big advantages of this projector is its very wide zoom range, 2 to 1. An inexpensive 3 chip lcd 1080p replacement with a similar zoom/ lumen could be found through Epson.

My AE100e unit is now close to 2000 hours on its bulb and is 1/2 as bright as when I recieved it. Instead of buying a new bulb I bought a new brighter 3000 lumen Optoma 720p 3D ready DLP unit. I have also got the 3d adapter and am waiting on some panastereo glasses. The Bluray 3d is very impressive .

The main issue with single chip DLP is the rainbow effect, which is not noticed by the majority, recent technology has however reduced the effect to occasional. The early technology I personally found the effect was very distracting but not so today as long as the image is not over bright.

As yet my outdoor business does not need to upgrade as most people do not choose to sit close enough to the screen to see an advantage nor supply the film on blu ray. When I run HD people always comment on how high quality the image on my 720p machines etc. I personally am looking for any reason to upgrade [Smile] .

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Brad Miller
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Celine, there are theaters getting rid of their portable preshow projectors in favor of running the preshow through the big DLP projector. Grab 2 (or 3 or 4) of those and stack them! You'll get all the brightness you need for little cost AND if one fails, the show keep running (darker).

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Cameron Glendinning
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 - posted 06-05-2011 03:26 AM      Profile for Cameron Glendinning   Email Cameron Glendinning   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
After thinking about it the Panasonic 4000 with its auto lens zoom for cinemascope would probably be the best choice even, if you have to mount it somewhere else (which I have not checked).

As your screen is home sized at 12ft wide I'm sure it would only need one machine but I would probably not use the "Movie" setting in the menu of the projector. On a panasonic the brightest setting is "Dynamic".

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Carsten Kurz
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The Pana 4000 indeed has a nice lens memory for easy flat/scope changes. But it is NOT bright enough even for this small screen. It might deliver a decent image with a fresh bulb. If you're not concerned about the best colour reproduction, you may still run it in dynamic mode (which is what you probably do with the Pana AX 100 all the time). Then change the bulb around 500-1000hrs.

The problem with most HomeCinema projectors is that they are optimized for contrast/black level, not brightness. Yet there are some units in the 2000-4000 Lumen range (uncalibrated), although most of them DLP units.

If you had an AX100 mounted in the auditorium so far - how did you adjust between flat and scope features?

Also note that every projector with that zoom range output quite some more light in wide lens setting than in tele setting. So setting the projector as close to the screen as possible also helps. That however, usually means ceiling mounting, which in turn means that you need a device with lens automation/memory - if you don't mind the scope image being smaller than flat.

Still - you will be disappointed after you replaced the AX100 with FullHD unit in the 2000-3000US$ range. The improvement will be not too impressive. If the LCDs are not faded, the AX100 still delivers an excellent image with a fresh bulb.

- Carsten

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