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Author Topic: More on KDM's Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 10-19-2011 12:30 AM                     The movie files might be the same, but one can assume that, since the hard drives have to be erased and rewritten for each new movie, one could add the individual theatre's KDMs after the main process is complete. The only issue would then be if the wrong hard drive went to the wrong theatre. Like that NEVER happened with 35mm prints!  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 10-19-2011 09:50 AM                    Put all of the files for all of the theaters on it. Or maybe all from a particular region, or state or whatever. Then have the projector/server/whatever find its file and grab it. Or have it automatically grab it from a web server somewhere. Seems like a pretty easy process gone complicated to me.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 10-19-2011 12:55 PM                     Each KDM has a code in the file that is assigned to the individual serial number of the assigned server. If a KDM, that was injested, that has a different code which doesn't match the server's serial number, the key remains unusable and the file cannot be played. With numerous servers having the same feature, each key must have its own assigned code containing the serial number embedded in the .xml file due per each server's serial number, along with the dates that the key is valid. Why it's handy to have a list of servers in the complex with accompanying serial numbers so the right key is assigned to the right server if doing KDM injest manually instead of networking them out from a central source from the email client. When the new "Dark Knight Rises" trailer came out, this file was a locked file which required a KDM to unlock it with the valid playdates and server assignments in each KDM file that came down via email.  |  IP: Logged Flemming B. Nielsen Film Handler Posts: 8 From: Nykøbing F., Denmark Registered: Jun 2011 posted 10-19-2011 01:50 PM                        Hmm Our 'Dark Knight Rises' trailer is not encrypted.....  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 10-19-2011 01:55 PM                     ..the first set originally assigned to "HP:VII" were encrypted and needed the key.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 10-19-2011 02:58 PM                    It still sounds like it's a process that is way under-automated. On the Dark Knight trailer being encrypted... I never understood security on trailers. Wouldn't you WANT everyone to see your trailer? Why make it difficult to play?  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 10-19-2011 04:33 PM                     quote: Mark J. Marshall that is way under-automated ...it's all for the simple case of anti-piracy procedures. quote: Mark J. Marshall Wouldn't you WANT everyone to see your trailer? Why make it difficult to play? All typical trailers are not encrypted, thus they can be played at any time along with being stored as long as you want to. WB prob only wanted a certain time frame to advertise this trailer, why it was encrypted. Yet, it can be automated where, example sake's,: Tech or Deluxe sends the KDM's to the theatre's mailbox, which a copy of these keys are automatically delivered to a ftp server, in which then, due to the serial number assignment per each key, the server automatically delivers the key, with the matching serial number of the server, to the appropriate playback server. The serial number procedure is like a checksum: both ends have to match to make the process work. This eliminates the email deliveries to the manual copy to the USB procedure. Yet, if an glitch in the automated delivery happens, a user can still retrieve the .xml file from the ftp server to expand it to copy to USB if an occasion is needed. I haven't performed a manual USB key delivery for a few months now after we went automated. Even if I do need a key, I call up either depot and it comes shortly to our email client, which in turn automatically goes to the ftp server..and in a few minutes, the playback server has the key and the movie is unlocked. Trust me, it does work .. - Monte  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-19-2011 04:50 PM                     Believe it or not...one of the reasons for the stupid POTS line requirement was for the KDMs...the distributor would "call" the server, send the KDMs to the LMS for distribution...no human involvement at all at the theatre level. Who here has a working POTS line on the LMS and actually has ever had anything delivered on it? -Steve  |  IP: Logged Dustin Mitchell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1865 From: Mondovi, WI, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 10-19-2011 05:00 PM                     I am uncertain of how the KDM's get to our LMS; has to be either satellite or via modem. All I know is it happens automatically and the occasional instance where it doesn't show up on the LMS/servers copies are emailed to the theatre email address anyway.  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 10-19-2011 06:58 PM                     Our KDMs are uploaded directly in to the LMS, AND emailed to whomever I tell Technicolor, Cinedigm and Deluxe I want the KDMs sent to each week, AND (in the case of Technicolor) available for me to download every Wednesday from http://keys.99films.com  |  IP: Logged Olivier Lemaire Expert Film Handler Posts: 118 From: Paris, Ile de France, France Registered: Jan 2010 posted 10-19-2011 07:33 PM                        quote: Steve Guttag Who here has a working POTS line on the LMS we have one... cause of VPF contracts :S quote: Steve Guttag and actually has ever had anything delivered on it? Did not since more than 3 years now... cause of pure realism I guess KDMs are flowing by mail to the theater central server, where they can then be ingested a few clicks away. Anyway, I'm still waiting for this "security" measure to be removed by Studios... but until then, I'm still forced to apply it on a regular basis (each LMS we deploy)...  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 10-19-2011 08:32 PM                     quote: Edward Havens available for me to download every Wednesday from http://keys.99films.com ..member restricted site... I've seen this url in the *.xml files. Bookers, with instruction to these deposts, prob can have these keys sent directly without owner interaction...  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 10-20-2011 12:10 AM                     I believe the POTS line requirement is indeed finally going away (at least in the US). Sony is probably the lone hold-out on demanding it. Mind you, it isn't the end of the world to implement it...just a USB modem (and some LMS systems have that built in). It does require the business to have a dedicated land-line and phone number just for that single purpose. -Steve  |  IP: Logged Edward Havens Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 614 From: Los Angeles, CA Registered: Mar 2008 posted 10-20-2011 01:24 AM                     Well... yeah, Monte. You need to have a TDC account, and have TDC link your email account to your TDC account, so when you log in, you get your KDMs.  |  IP: Logged

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