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Author Topic: Digital Nightmare At Vancouver Film Fest Pete Naples Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1565 From: Dunfermline, Scotland Registered: Feb 2001 posted 10-14-2011 01:50 AM                     Server and projector need to 'marry' to all intents and purposes, this is to establish a secure connection between them for link decryption porpoises. Also on Series II's you have the security logs downloaded from server to projector, what can go awry, but it is not immediately obvious, is these logs not downloading. The projector has limited memory for these logs, and once that memory is full, the projector will lock out until said logs are downloaded. This can be a real PITA, without secure connection to the projector, the server will not download logs, with the log memory full the projector will not marry up to the server... See where this is going? Yup, round and round and round. The logs must be downloaded by a server, you can't simply connect a laptop and delete or download them. If you can't get the server to download them then it's change a card in the projector time, for one with empty log memory, then quickly sort out your downloading issue so it doesn't happen again.  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 10-14-2011 03:13 AM                     You oughta see the "marriages" that SONY goes through between projector and its media block...  |  IP: Logged Walter Rabey Film Handler Posts: 14 From: Canada Registered: Nov 2010 posted 10-18-2011 04:15 AM                    I remember laughing when reading over the manual for one of our Christie CP2200's. In the Marriage (Handshake) section, the manual attempts to instruct the installer to 'take a bright light and very carefully inspect' all parts and latches to the projector's secure area which holds the projector's decryption keys. Id be surprised if anyone has ever actually done this.  |  IP: Logged Paul Mayer Oh get out of it Melvin, before it pulls you under! Posts: 3836 From: Albuquerque, NM Registered: Feb 2000 posted 10-18-2011 12:02 PM                        The current Sony SRX is much easier to do re-marriages with now - not the old "call Sony and get an access code" routine of the past. Sony re-marriages are now no harder to do than other manufacturers.  |  IP: Logged Tony Bandiera Jr Film God Posts: 3067 From: Moreland Idaho Registered: Apr 2004 posted 10-18-2011 12:20 PM                     quote: Pete Naples a secure connection between them for link decryption porpoises. Yeah, nothing worse than an insecure marine mammal. Sorry, couldn't resist. quote: Carsten Kurz ....in fact, HDMI itself does a lot of talking..... So true, and a major source of headaches for me in some of my screening rooms....in more than one case, we gave up and went to RGB (I'm using the colloquial term here, not the technical one) because a minor glitch on the playback source caused a lengthy blackout on the screen as the projecor and dvd/blu-ray player renegotiated the HDCP handshake. One manufacturer made an HDMI switcher that could be "hotdogged" to strip the HDCP and solve the problem, but it is no longer available.  |  IP: Logged Walter Rabey Film Handler Posts: 14 From: Canada Registered: Nov 2010 posted 10-18-2011 01:59 PM                    HDCP strippers were popular back in the early days of HDPC because a lot of people still had good DVI displays that did not support this. It's pretty well a thing of the past now. People nowadays just seem to manually remove the copy protection in software for use on older displays (fair use!) or have moved on and just bought a display that supports HDCP. They are however, still somewhat popular I find for CRT projectors. You will never see one of those factory built with an HDMI port. Does anyone know what went wrong between the Projector and the Dolby player here? Was it a security interlock that failed? Bad cabling?  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 10-20-2011 09:29 AM                     quote: Joe Redifer Does a DVD player need to talk to a TV? Indeed they do if you're using an HDMI link. There is a handshake that takes place once the two have talked together and then you have a woorking digital link. Oh and Joe... you guessed it... they are talking about you! quote: Paul Mayer Sony re-marriages are now no harder to do than other manufacturers. Sony's do seem to get divorced more often though...  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 10-20-2011 10:24 AM                     Our projector's enigma module died earlier this year. With nobody to "talk to," the controls on the server locked up. But, in this case, a wholesale projector change-out ought to have cured that. Yes, it is possible that both projectors could have had the same faulty component, but it's not likely. In both setups, the server and cabling remained the same. That's where I'd start looking for trouble. But, then, this is only my first year with D-Cinema. Maybe it was Mynoks... chewing on the power lines..? And, yeah... HDCP =  |  IP: Logged David M. Leugers Film Handler Posts: 43 From: Fairfield, Ohio, united States of America Registered: Jan 2005 posted 10-20-2011 10:02 PM                     My wife and I went to see the latest Woody Allen film this summer at one of the art theaters near us. We had no idea that the theater had changed over to all digital projection. The film started and looked terrible. Soft focus and off colors. Then it quit entirely - for the next 30 minutes. The manager said they have been having problems and to please be patient. They got it going and we were treated to the same crappy image. After it was over the manager gave out free passes. I probably won't use them. The point is this was the first time I experienced a projection issue since 1982 when a film broke in the projector at a theater in Macon, Georgia. Seems this is not all that uncommon with the "perfected" digital projection...  |  IP: Logged

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