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Mike Blakesley
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From: Forsyth, Montana
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 - posted 02-21-2012 07:06 PM      Profile for Mike Blakesley   Author's Homepage   Email Mike Blakesley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I think the big buzzword in another few years is going to be:

(drum roll)

Retrofits.

After all, why shouldn't it be possible to use the same lens, power supply, cabinet, server, and who-knows-what-else and turn it into a wonderful new laser projector? If nobody is working on this I would be astounded.

Since there won't be VPFs to help the big chains (that didn't need any help in the first place, but I digress) the next time, they'll need SOME way to upgrade on the cheap. The Carmikes of the world certainly aren't going to actually BUY new $60,000 machines in a few years.

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Jim Henk
Master Film Handler

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From: San Diego, CA
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 - posted 02-21-2012 09:21 PM      Profile for Jim Henk   Email Jim Henk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
$60,000? I just read that Runco has a (admittedly state-of-the-art) home projector for $200,000. Are theatre machines really as cheap as 60K?

Runco link

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Jake Spell
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Runco has long been at the forefront of way overpriced home theater projectors. I remember one costing $150k (I think) at a local AV store about 10 years ago.

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Jim Henk
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Oops - hit refresh and it re-posted. Sorry.

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Scott Norwood
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 - posted 02-21-2012 11:12 PM      Profile for Scott Norwood   Author's Homepage   Email Scott Norwood   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Word on the street is that $60k should be in the general ballpark for a 2D setup with the small Christie plus a server plus installation with an existing sound system in an existing booth. Presumably the price goes up if you want automation. For home use, you wouldn't need the server, so the price drops by about $10k. Add $5k or so if you want a scaler, but that is actually unnecessary if you just want to use Blu-Ray via HDMI/DVI.

I have no idea who buys $200k video projectors for home use, but--even if you have the money--it doesn't sound like a very good deal for something that will be obsolete the day after it is purchased.

(Don't quote me on prices (I don't sell or buy this stuff), but they should be in the general range.)

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 02-22-2012 05:46 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
One thing that I've noticed is that the print numbers are in the lower digits for new film releases - definitely on the decline of new prints being struck.

-Monte

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Monte L Fullmer
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Jeremy Kipnis's $6 MIL home ET system Jeremy wouldn't mind Runcos for his display units if it wasn't for the Sonys.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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From: Washington, District of Columbia
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so referring to a prior comment I made a year ago about the National Geographic digital projection system, this year's Global Glimpses foreign film showcase - the system I found out last Friday night is a Christie 4K unit. The 2K DCP image of 'Kon-Tiki' was simply outstanding. The system is also able to present 3D as they are currently showing 'Sea Monsters 3D'

as to new news of theaters transitioning to digital, the National Gallery of Art on the National Mall has been upgraded to playback DCPs - out of all the forms of film delivery/presentation, the ONLY form that is not able to be played back at the museum is 70mm

Both E Street Landmark and the Angelika Mosaic - are technically all digital - but also have one screen set up to playback 35mm when ever the opportunity presents itself.

The non-profit Avalon Theater is the one stalwart in delaying the change over as long as possible. I don't expect to see 'digital' til the Fall (at the earliest).

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