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John T. Hendrickson, Jr
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 - posted 03-22-2012 06:58 PM      Profile for John T. Hendrickson, Jr   Email John T. Hendrickson, Jr   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Golly gee. A hell of a lot of good that does me now. It's 8PM and my work for the day is loooooong done.

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Brad Miller
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 - posted 03-22-2012 09:32 PM      Profile for Brad Miller   Author's Homepage   Email Brad Miller       Edit/Delete Post 
Earlier they released the keys to be valid at 5pm. Maybe someone at Lionsgate is finally realizing they are setting themselves up for a disaster with this last minute nonsense.

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Justin Hamaker
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 - posted 03-22-2012 09:54 PM      Profile for Justin Hamaker   Author's Homepage   Email Justin Hamaker   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Another thing that shows they are foolish: the 10 min qc key came with a unique CPL which uses reel one of the movie. However, there were no instructions on how to load the CPL. Then they send a letter out today with instructions to ingest the qc cpl after ingesting the feature, and then do the keys for the qc after the cpl.

Of course they left out the part about having to manually send the qc CPL to the servers and then build it into a play list.

All told, we've received the original 5.1 and 7.1 KDMs for the qc.
-We received the initial KDMs which were good at 11:30pm.
-Then they sent a letter advising us they would be sending new keys which would be valid starting at 8:00pm.
-Followed by the new 5.1 and 7.1 KDMs.
-Then we received a letter saying they would be sending new keys which were good at 8:00pm (17:00).
-Then a new letter saying they would be sending new keys which were good at 5:00pm (17:00).
-And finally the new 5.1 & 7.1 KDMs.

Good think I have actually been paying attention.

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Jim Henk
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 - posted 03-23-2012 03:26 AM      Profile for Jim Henk   Email Jim Henk   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Please tell me that this is a joke. If so, it's not funny.

Nowadays, they're locking 35mm film cans somehow with time locks??? And you're getting a really *short, and assigned* window to inspect and assemble prints?

WTF**k?????!!!!

There ought to be a Commandment.

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David Buckley
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 - posted 03-23-2012 04:47 AM      Profile for David Buckley   Author's Homepage   Email David Buckley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I read it as little combination locks, only they don't tell you the combination until it's close enough to screening time that one slip and are deep in the [bs]

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Marcel Birgelen
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 - posted 03-23-2012 08:33 AM      Profile for Marcel Birgelen   Email Marcel Birgelen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote:
I read it as little combination locks, only they don't tell you the combination until it's close enough to screening time that one slip and are deep in the [bs]
Analog DRM, now they only need something that locks the print back up after your license expires [Wink] .

Does anybody have a guess how long until the first studio stops releasing prints on 35MM alltogether?

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Dominic Espinosa
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 - posted 03-23-2012 03:49 PM      Profile for Dominic Espinosa   Email Dominic Espinosa   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
A couple of them are holding fast to the September 2012 date though I'm now hearing 2013 in the mix.

There's a real simple work-a-round: cut the lock off the can or slice the canvas bag open.
What are they going to say if they even follow up when the print gets returned and you say "oh it must've been lost."

You know...so long as you don't get caught [Wink]

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Justin Hamaker
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John Fithian's response to that question on a recent conference call was that none of the studios had given a firm date, but the end of 2013 is what he was being told in various discussions.

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Monte L Fullmer
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 - posted 03-23-2012 09:33 PM      Profile for Monte L Fullmer   Email Monte L Fullmer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Justin Hamaker
but the end of 2013 is what he was being told in various discussions.

Thus, still a subjective result (hearsay) since no written and definite decision has been made or presented.

Can this look a bit fishy to some?

-Monte

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Carsten Kurz
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I think a definite date is completely irrelevant for the industry now. They already started to reduce the number of 35mm prints significantly. Wether a second run will not receive a print already now or in a years time - the economics simply worsen more and more and the final decision of a studio to not release 35mm prints for a specific feature will only have symbolic relevance - long before that, already a significant number of analog only houses will be in big trouble.
I heard that for Hugo, only a handful of 35mm prints have been struck in germany. While this is understandable given the strong 3D nature of that movie, half a dozen analog prints for germany basically means 'no prints available' for the majority of analog screens. So, it already started.

- Carsten

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