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Olivier Lemaire
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As long as you:
1- accept to have the server running on UPS, and the projector on stand-by mode
2- have a way to automatize the environment (extractor motor, chain B on/off...)
you can pretty simply automatize the screen.

A christie projector can be placed in stand-by mode / resumed from stand-by mode by a remotely send TCP/IP command. The same for Doremi servers for example (thx to magic packet/WOL IP feature).

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Marco Giustini
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quote: Olivier Lemaire
A christie projector can be placed in stand-by mode / resumed from stand-by mode by a remotely send TCP/IP command
Hi
In the first message I posted, I asked you if I can switch the projector on through the Doremi, pointing out the communication error when the projector is in stand by. You said "yes you can"; could you please tell me how you can send the TCP command through the Doremi to the projector without manual intervention?

Thanks
Marco

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William F Green
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I know what Marco means as I have the same problem with a Doremi and NEC NC800.
You can add a 'lamp off' macro to the playlist and the entire projector will enter its power-down/cooling cycle.
But you cannot run a 'lamp on' (in fact projector on) macro from a playlist because as Marco says the Doremi will not proceed with a playlist (scheduled or otherwise) when the projector is in standby due to a 'projector communication error'.
But here is the strange part, if you manually execute the 'lamp on' macro on the doremi (not from within cinelister) it does work. What Marco (and I) would like to know is how to automate or schedule that 'lamp on' macro for unattended start-up of the projector.

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Carsten Kurz
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I wrote that a few postings ago - you can add macros to be executed through boot-time shell scripts or cron jobs. However, as I was insiting about the non-technical aspect of this - it doesn't make too much sense to automate a projection system from the individual server. You would either have an external automation issue these commands, or something like a TMS. That would be the proper place to locate this option for a manager. PowerOn from Standby on these projectors kann be controlled through GPIO/button/relay interface, serial, or TCP-IP.

- Carsten

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Olivier Lemaire
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Marko, did you had time to read my mail and test it?

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Marco Giustini
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Will,

It's not strange, the Christie board is still working, and that will receive and execute the "projector on" macro. The problem is that the server won't run a playlist because the ICP is off, hence the communication issue.

I know that an external automation can solve this, but the point is that the original question was "can the doremi turn the projector on".

Carsten,
What is a "cron job"? Usually a server is never powered down, so the boot up macro is a partial solution.

Olivier,
I had not seen the email, sorry.
I have not tested it but I had done it in the past, and the problem is that you are NOT allowed to run any playlists if the projector is off! I'll give it another try next time I'm by a Doremi and a Christie, but how do you solve the issue?

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Chris Slycord
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quote: Marco Giustini
Carsten,
What is a "cron job"? Usually a server is never powered down, so the boot up macro is a partial solution.

cron is a scheduler for unix-like systems, allowing scripts and/or commands to be performed at certain times/days. And the tasks to be performed are referred to as jobs.

For instance, you could schedule it to do a certain script at a certain time everyday.

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Olivier Lemaire
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Oups, right - dit not read you correctly, mea culpa - if the projector is in stand-by mode, IMB card will be turned off, so no show(playlist) loading possible - hence, no scheduled show [Frown]
(and for non IMB servers, you have to disable the projector in the device list to make you playlist load&run... that won't help of any interest if we make to have the full-auto-screen job done).

Still, you can use a cronjob (from the Doremi server or anywhere else in fact) to have the job done. Here an sample script (yet TIMTOWTDI of course) :
quote:

#!/usr/bin/perl
# Talk to a Christie projector

use strict;
use warnings;
use IO::Socket::INET;

my $message = "(PWR0)"; # PWR0 turn on / PWR3 turn off
my $socket;
$socket = IO::Socket::INET->new(
PeerAddr => "PLACE_YOUR_PROJECTOR_IP_THERE",
PeerPort => "5000",
Proto => 'tcp',
Timeout => 5) or die();
print $socket "$message" or die();
close($socket);

# - This Is The End... (known song)


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Marco Giustini
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Ok, we have finally agreed that we cannot turn a christie on if the ICP is off! But the cron job is very interesting. I will google to find out how to set those scripts, I'll give it a try.
Even though Christie have its own scheduler which may be a bit more user friendly, this is good stuff to know.

Thanks everybody.

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Carsten Kurz
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You can send the same commands to one or multiple projectors from a separate plain vanilla machine on the network, windows, iPad, whatever.

As I wrote now multiple times, this is not a technical question, but should be answered from a workflow perspective. Who needs to schedule projector power on from standby for what reason, from where and when. Typically, a TMS would be the place to have this function.

- Carsten

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Marco Giustini
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Carsten, I know it can be done by multiple devices. But the original point was "can I turn a Christie on from a doremi, through a playlist?" and the answer is no.
Then you are perfectly right in what you say, but that is not the point!
Thanks and regards

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Olivier Lemaire
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Carsten:
quote: Carsten Kurz

Who needs to schedule projector power on from standby for what reason, from where and when. Typically, a TMS would be the place to have this function.

On a general basis you are probably right: a TMS means Theater Management System afterall.

But we should not forget that there is no "One Way to Rules Them All": lots of theaters won't have a need for a TMS, especially little ones -> they can automatize their screens with simple tricks (and somes will not even want to automatize nothing by the way, but that's another topic).

Moreover, a TMS is a cost - and probably some peoples out there will prefer to avoid spending money for something they could eventually do their own different way.

So, at the end, the present thread may be of some helps for somes - that's all about this forum afterall, isn't it? [Smile]

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Marco Giustini
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oh yes, and I wish to thank Olivier again for the nice thread!

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