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Steve Guttag
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I'm pretty sure it does.

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Nerijus Marmokas
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Well, Steve, first of all I was talking about DSS220, not DSS200.
Second, I got this info from Dolby, and I received KDM's for updating, without any questions what version am I running on DSS100/DSP100.
Third, yes, of course I can be wrong. But I indeed did not make this up just out of thin air.

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Steve Guttag
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As one that has HAD to charge for a DSS100/DSP100 update to have it communicate with current systems (and yes it was DSS200s) I said what is FACT...what you claim "may not be universally true" which does not imply you made anything up. It does imply that I can cite a case in point where your statement does not work for everyone and everywhere. The difference between DSS200 and DSS220 would not factor into this.

Where I ran into this was in a VPF situation where the customer was forced to update to Dolby 4.4.0.48 for DCI compliance...the lone DSS100/DSP100 had to go to 4.3.7 if it wanted to be on the same Jupiter Client and have full content transferability (be on the same system) as the rest of the plex. Your case was a DSS220 that has to run on system 4.5 and beyond. It is the same problem.

It is great that they gave it out for free...I hope they get to a point where they don't charge for upgrades to their own products. But, at this time, your statement is not universally true and I stand behind that based on actual experience.

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Mattias Mattsson
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Good to know. Thanks Steve.

Do you know if it is possible to run a DSP100 at DH Link Encryption with version v4.4.2(10) (or later)?

We have a site with a DSP100 together with a Series 1 projector that has an old non-gore board.

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Steve Guttag
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The DSS100/DSP100 will not run any version of 4.4. The "compatible" version is 4.3.7 or 4.3.9 (current). Since they are not DCI compliant, my guess is that they will run Cinelink2 DH. Dolby is clear that the DSS100/DSP100 is not DCI compliant at this time. Even if the DSS100/DSP100 is updated to 4.5 it remains non-compliant...the DSP100 version is the same for 4.3.9 and 4.5.x.

At this point, all of my DSP100s are running Cinelink 2 TLS on series 1 projectors. Once I heard about the pending change and Gore board requirements...I decided to make the switch to see if I had any "problem" units before it became a crisis. All of the systems I service had no problem with TLS so that is the mode the DSP100s are in.

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Mattias Mattsson
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If the DSS100 is not able to run anything beyond v4.3.9, how come it is listed under both v4.4.2(10) and v4.5.1(14) on the dolbysecure site?

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Nerijus Marmokas
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DSS100/DSP100 systems are able to run 4.4.x or 4.5.x.
But there are no software changes for DSP100, since it is the same version since system v4.3.5.9 (DSP100 Show Player 4.0.8.12).

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Steve Guttag
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Dolby states that DSS100 will not run 4.4.x (the DSL100 will, not th DSS). 4.3.7 and 4.3.9 were created to allow the DSS100 to be on the same network as any DSS200/DSL100 systems on 4.4. However 4.5.x will run on any Dolby server.

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Nerijus Marmokas
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Thats strange.. I've got an opposite statement from Dolby... And I'm running 4.5.2.5 on DSS100...

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Steve Guttag
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Is your statement verbal? Mine comes from their release notes and from the download site.

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Nerijus Marmokas
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I have multiple e-mails from Dolby regarding this issue. I asked several times since version 4.4.x came out, if DSS100 will be able to run this and later versions. The answer was positive, and I'm successfully running versions 4.5.2.5 and 4.5.3.5 on two DSS100/DSP100 systems.

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Steve Guttag
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Check out the release notes on version 4.4.x (any of them) and you won't find a DSP100 version listed and it WILL discuss 4.3.7 (of which 4.3.9 is current). If 4.4 was compatible, there would have been zero need for 4.3.7 or 4.3.9. Think about it.

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Nerijus Marmokas
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Yeah, sorry, v4.4.x is really incompatible - my bad.
But 4.5.x versions are compatible, only not DCI compliant for DSS100 / DSP100.

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