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Wolfgang Woehl
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 - posted 01-03-2013 02:22 PM      Profile for Wolfgang Woehl   Author's Homepage   Email Wolfgang Woehl   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Re MPEG DCP: We're talking MPEG2 MP@HL bitrates, way sufficient for bluray source. 12 bpc JPEG2000 makes no sense at all for that kind of material.

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Marcel Birgelen
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quote: Wolfgang Woehl
Re MPEG DCP: We're talking MPEG2 MP@HL bitrates, way sufficient for bluray source. 12 bpc JPEG2000 makes no sense at all for that kind of material.
Let's agree to disagree on this one.

MPEG2, even at MP@HL will have more compression artifacts than a string of JPEG2000 pictures. And yes, I do have my experiences. I've transcoded quite a bunch of content from Blu-Ray sources to MPEG2 at high bitrates. It's OK, good enough for normal HD-TV purposes, but nothing that I would want to present on a BIG screen.

The JPEG2000 version on the other hand looks quite indistinguishable from the Blu-Ray master.

Actually, most people will probably not really notice the difference, but most people even won't notice the difference between 35mm or digital, unless you specifically tell them...

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Frank Angel
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quote: Mike Blakesley
I have a very low-tech solution --- I have a cardboard "door" on the port window.
Mike -- How about this -- still low-tech, but a tad cooler, and you'll put some old hardware to use.

Take an old CD-ROM/DVD unit from a junked computer, cut piece of black construction paper the size of a CD and glue it in the caddy draw where the CD/DVD would have gone. Mount the whole thing right in front of your projector lens. Wire up the push-button terminals to an external switch that you mount next to your BluRay player. Ready to start the show? Press the button and, bingo, the CDROM draw (let's call it a dowser) opens and covers the projector lens for you. Press you switch again and it the "dowser" shuts. Not bad for making use of those CD-ROM units.

We have about a dozen of those CD-ROM units just sitting in a cardboard box because every time we buy a new computer, we strip the old one and save parts...for what, I don't know, but at least there's a use for one of them. Oh yah, you will also need to power it. Well, you know all those AC to 12DC power supply widgets that come with every small electronic gadget like computer speakers? You know, the dozen or so you have sitting in a cardboard box because every time you buy a new gadget, you throw away the old gadget, but you still have it's power supply and you don't throw that away because you can't remember exactly what is for, so you save it...you kno, in that cardboard box with all the other orphaned power supply widgets. Well, use one of them to power up your new automatic projector dowser!

Disclaimer -- I never got around to doing this, just thought it up so if you do use it, let us know how it works out.

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Carsten Kurz
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An nice practical idea Frank. ;-)

- Carsten

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Scott Norwood
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Frank--I've done that. It works. I used a generic CD drive in a Sun "411" box, which has its own internal power supply. The only problem is that you don't get separate "open" and "close" buttons, but rather a single button that reverses the current position of the tray.

I really wish that the manufacturers of video projectors would realize how important it is to have an instantaneous open/close douser function (like on a film projector), not the 1/2-second (or so) delay that Christie (and others) seem to think is acceptable.

And, as always, I advocate wiring the video projector douser function into your film projector changeover system (if you have one or more film projectors in your booth). For festivals and events, there are few things nicer than having the ability to do (almost) seamless film/video changeovers.

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Robert Harrison
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 - posted 10-21-2013 01:35 PM      Profile for Robert Harrison   Email Robert Harrison   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Hey, everybody,

James Bond of Full Aperture Systems has just notified me that Oppo finally has an update which will disable the on screen display.

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Aaron Garman
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Can confirm. I updated my player at home over the weekend.

Works like a charm.

Now they just need to allow us to disable that Oppo loading screening when playing a list of files off of a hard drive.

AJG

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Carsten Kurz
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Which firmware for which player types? I don't see anything on OPPOs site, except that there is an Oct 17. firmware for the 93 and 95 model. Is that it? The firmware history doesn't mention the OSD.

- Carsten

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Steve Guttag
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I know that the current OPPOs (103) can disable the OSD as well as the screen saver. I've tested with it paused for about 1/2 and hour and when I hit play, it started right from where I paused it (freeze frame and all).

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Carsten Kurz
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Is there a fourth OSD option now? Or do you disable it elsewhere?

'OSD Mode – Allows you to select how long the on-screen display (OSD) information, such as playback operation icons (PAUSE, STOP, SKIP, etc.), stays on the TV screen.

Normal – OSD information stays on the TV screen until the user cancels it.

Minimal – OSD information stays on the TV screen for a few seconds and then
disappears. The front panel display still maintains the selected display information.

Remaining – OSD information stays on the TV screen until the user cancels it. By default, displays remaining time instead of elapsed time.'

- Carsten

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Kirk Futrell
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Just downloaded the firmware upgrade for 93's and 95's. You can now turn off the OSD. Its under Video Setup/Display Options/OSD Mode.

Normal
Remaining
Silent
Off

If you like to have your digital display on the player countdown (remaining) instead of up you can hit display then hit the page down button on the remote.

Here is a link to their release notes
http://oppodigital.com/blu-ray-bdp-93/bdp9x-firmware-79-0910.aspx

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Mihkel Salk
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Has anyone found a way to disable the loading screen when playing a list of files off a HDD?
It should probably be doable with a custom FW.

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Jesse Skeen
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Sorry I don't have an answer for that, but I got my BDP-93 in 2012 and didn't know this thread existed til now. Satisfied with the player for the most part but the on-screen display was a big complaint, I had asked them about that shortly after getting the player and they said they didn't want people to not know what the player was doing or something stupid like that. I did set it to Off as soon as that update came out, good to know there were a lot of other complaints about it! If only other electronics companies listened as much to consumers (though as mentioned, the Sony player I had before already had the option to turn the OSD completely off.)

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