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Author Topic: ingesting from another server (doremi dcp 2000) Stephen Furley Film God Posts: 3059 From: Coulsdon, Croydon, England Registered: May 2002 posted 02-07-2013 07:01 AM                     Brad, How big is a typical film? I never thought to look in the days when I was involved in projection.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 02-07-2013 12:47 PM                     Can be anything between 80 and 300 Gbytes for a typical feature ingest. A DCP/harddisc may contain multiple versions - depending on language version, subtitles, surround sound system, could as well go as high as 500GBytes or more. HFR doubles it on average, but neither 4k nor 3D (same peak bitrates as 2k/2D) - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 02-07-2013 01:27 PM                     After some testing, here is what I noticed......Both screens have the projector, server, and automation controller hoooked up to their own gigabit switch. Switches then connected to each other via CAT6 cable. Doremi server using ETH 0 only. Transferring a 136GB movie from one server to another while both servers are playing back took over 4 hours. Transferring same movie while both servers were idle took 26 minutes. Would using ETH 1 on the server through the same switch with everything else make a difference in any way?  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 02-07-2013 01:43 PM                     Nope, that's just what happens on software raids in these d-cinema servers. They have to throttle incoming and outgoing file transfers to ensure that playback is not interrupted and/or does not stutter.  |  IP: Logged Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 02-07-2013 01:48 PM                     Thanks Brad. At least now I know it's normal.  |  IP: Logged Robertt Haddad Film Handler Posts: 12 From: jounieh saha lebanon Registered: Jan 2013 posted 02-11-2013 03:06 PM                     hello all please one last question if i connect both server direct with straight cat 5 cable .1 go to content feed manager here my question should i invent the ip or the ip is in the server how can i add it. and the same ip must be on both server plz can someone give me an example  |  IP: Logged Robertt Haddad Film Handler Posts: 12 From: jounieh saha lebanon Registered: Jan 2013 posted 02-11-2013 05:03 PM                     dear all this is my question how this works ? identifier ... ingest protocol... server ip .... username ... password .... remote path .... please can someone fill in this  |  IP: Logged Dave Macaulay Film God Posts: 2321 From: Toronto, Canada Registered: Apr 2001 posted 02-11-2013 09:35 PM                     1: unless it's a fairly short cable (25 feet maybe) you will need Cat6 cable to get 1000Mb/s 2: direct ethernet cable connection (no switch) between the eth0 or eth1 ports on the two servers works fine. Really old DCP2000s ("Intel entry server board" displayed on bootup) you might need a switch in between. 3: you have to set up the ethernet ports on the servers, this is in "system apps" or whatever the bottom choice is, "networking configuration", you need the root (called su for superuser) password. Set these up for no DHCP, address the two servers differently like 192.168.50.1 and 192.168.50.2 with the netmask as 255.255.255.0 and no gateway. If you're not sure what adapter is which, check in device manager for the projector address and do not change the server port with the same first three sets of numbers, if you do you'll have to set it back before it will show movies. When you set the port address for your new cable do not use the same first three sets of numbers as are used on the port connecting to the projector. Usually the third set is changed but it doesn't really matter. You have to reboot after changing port settings. 4: with both servers ports addressed and the cable connected, open "control panel" and start "content feed manager". This opens a window with a list on the left with only "Local Storage" in it. To the right there is a "scan for servers" button. Current software (2.2.5-0) is a bit better than previous versions here, anyway you have to click it: it searches a while and then comes up with a list of connected servers. If you don't see the other server there's something wrong with addressing or wiring. If you see it, click it. The address should be what you set the other server's port to. You may have to fill in the usual "manager" name and password plus "admin" and its password. Then try "test" and it should pop up a window and say "success!". Call the server some logical name where it says "new server" - like "screen 1" for example. Click on "Advanced" and select playlists if you want to ingest them too - this is pretty useful so you don't have to make a new one when you transfer a show but the two server's macros must be identical. You can also select "authorize pngest from this server" if you want, that lets you play a movie while ingesting it from the other server. That may not work so well if the source server is also playing a movie - I haven't tried it. Leave 'remote path" as it is, jjst "\" I think. Click "save" then close the control panel. Repeat on the other server. If you can't scan, it probably has wiring or address issues but you can enter manually and test - identifier is the name you give the other server protocol is ftp address is the IP address you set for the other server management name is "manager" with the manager password administrator is "admin" with the admin passowrd 4: Open the ingest manager ("Doremi Apps", "Ingest"). It will immediately scan any ingest devices attached (USB or CRU) and display what it found. Close the "no content found" window if it opens. Click on "Local Storage" and a pulldown menu will open, select the other server. It will scan that server. Select and ingest what you want.  |  IP: Logged Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 02-13-2013 12:00 PM                     Just some more random info. I just loaded a 111GB movie via sata connection through the external bay. It took 45 minutes. Server was idle at the time. I then transfered it to another screen via gigabit switch. Both servers were idle. It took 22 minutes.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 02-13-2013 06:16 PM                     One thing to consider with this approach is that during media ingest, a check/verification is performed, it's not just a copy process. After the dcp has been ingested, network transfers between servers take place without verification, thus go much faster. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged

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