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Author Topic: UK Adverts from P&D -half are in smaller resolution - issues Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-06-2013 01:12 PM                     quote: Gavin Lewarne Im not sure how the adverts work in the US, but P&Ds over here are one "block" in the playlist. They are not added individually, so working out the proper times to add screen file change cues would be a full time job in itself Eff. That! Leave them alone. Pace yourself. Save your wits for something that really matters. Seriously.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 03-06-2013 05:09 PM                     Most ad footage is probably shot with FullHD Cameras and will natively have 1920*1080 resolution. Frankly, I would prefer to have MY 1080p ad screened pillarboxed instead of scaled from 1920 to 1998... But when you say you receive a mix of 1920 and 1998 wide ads - I assume they are mixed arbitrarily, that means, left and right borders 'jump' in and outwards between ads? In that case, I would in fact zoom in the lens for ALL ads so that a steady frame is projected. I wouldn't care about the lost pixels at the side for 1998 wide ads. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Manny Knowles "What are these things and WHY are they BLUE???" Posts: 4247 From: Bloomington, IN, USA Registered: Feb 2002 posted 03-06-2013 05:30 PM                     ^^ Yes...Well, maybe! Assuming that uniformity is valued more highly than projecting all pixels, then another option would be to crop them all to 16x9 and use the same lens and LSC files as you would for the feature. This eliminates the time it takes your projector to zoom, focus and shift the lens back to your "true" 1.85 preset. And, as I've mentioned, it safeguards against focus drift. If my math is correct, enlarging 16x9 to 1.85 requires a 7.64% increase. I have experimented with projecting 1.85 Blurays at the same size as a 1.85 DCP. It has a noticeable impact on image quality. FWIW, I didn't care for it. If you decide to create a preset that zooms 16x9 up to 1.85, make sure to give that preset a descriptive name, to avoid confusion between it and the proper 1.85 preset.  |  IP: Logged Gavin Lewarne Master Film Handler Posts: 278 From: Plymouth, UK Registered: Aug 2009 posted 03-06-2013 07:09 PM                     Carsten - yeah, the borders jump about all over the place, hence why I wanted a "catch all" situation to just zoom and crop. I will experiment with some presets on Friday when I have a couple spare hours and see what looks best. I dont think having a couple seconds of black between "zoomed 1.85" and "true 1.85" from the ads to a feature while the lens changes is going to be as much of a distraction compared to the jumpy borders, and certainly no different from the flat>scope zoom time anyway. Ill get back to you all when im finished with what I think looks and works best (zoom+crop vs scale)  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 03-07-2013 05:46 AM                     Yes, I think three lens settings max is still okay - 'ads', 'trailers', 'main feature'. The problem with masking only for the 1998 trailers is that you still need to zoom in for the trailers again to show them properly. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Gavin Lewarne Master Film Handler Posts: 278 From: Plymouth, UK Registered: Aug 2009 posted 03-07-2013 06:47 AM                     ^^ Carsten - im not following you ?  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 03-07-2013 08:16 AM                     Sure you are ;-) For trailers you need to show the full 1998 width. If you want to show 1920 ads before within the same masking, you need to zoom in to enlarge the 1920 to the 1998 masking optically - first/initial lens setting. For the trailers then, usually flat, you need to zoom out - second lens setting. If your main feature is flat, no change, if it is scope, or there is a scope trailer block - third lens setting. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Marco Giustini Film God Posts: 2713 From: Reading, UK Registered: Nov 2007 posted 03-07-2013 03:57 PM                     I don't think it's up to the mastering facility to scale and crop the original picture. If the customer wanted an HD picture, the mastering cannot just decide to scale it full screen. Some films have been released in HD. It's up to the production/distribution. Dolby/Deluxe/Technicolor just do what they are asked to do. If the customer asks for HD picture, the facility can warn on the consequences, but that's it.  |  IP: Logged

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