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Jussi Siponen
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From: Mikkeli, Itä-Suomi, FINLAND
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 - posted 03-10-2013 08:15 AM      Profile for Jussi Siponen   Email Jussi Siponen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Since this topic was raised in the Digital Cinema Forum, I'm assuming the CP650 is being used in the contect of D-Cinema.

At least Dolby's DSS series of screen servers (and presumably also the library servers, since the software is essentially the same) offer a Web Service API. I haven't taken a in-depth look of what commands are available, but presumably enough to do things like adjust volume, start/pause/stop shows, etc.

It seems to me one'd get better coverage of the various audio processors by going through this indirect route. Also, you'd be dealing with a consistent API -- let the programmers at Dolby figure out the messy details.

If a "Show Manager Client Lite" was available for mobile devices, I for one would be interested in buying it. Having an iPod Touch / iPad Mini or an Android tablet as a dedicated "remote control" would be nice.

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Chris Slycord
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From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea
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quote: Randy Stankey
Not a retort but an honest question: How much support can the Android developer receive?

A paid-up Apple developer in good standing can receive code level support and guidance. Up to two incidents per year, free of charge. Further, there is access to a lot of developer documentation.

I think they just have code-level support through the forums although I think the devs are on them. And they list specific office hours for the developers themselves. I presume more info is given to people who actually develop, though unlike someone like me that's not involved. lol

Oh and there's definitely lots of documentation for android as well.

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Ken Lackner
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I did not know that the JSD-80 didn't respond to ping, but I did know the ECI-60 didn't for the same reason. It would be nice to have for simple troubleshooting, but I can always open a web browser and try to connect. Still, it would be nice to have ping functionality on both devices. Hint, hint, Harold. [Big Grin]

Now, I did NOT know the JSD-80 now has a web interface. That is fantastic! I will have to look for the latest firmware version. Didn't think that product was still being updated, but I'm very glad to see that it is.

Harold, a simple mobile app similar to the one QSC has would be very handy for discovering and controlling all ECIs and JSDs in a theater. [Smile]

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Harold Hallikainen
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 - posted 03-11-2013 10:00 AM      Profile for Harold Hallikainen   Author's Homepage   Email Harold Hallikainen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks for the hints on product improvement! The USL Ethernet Discoverer finds most USL products on the network using a UDP broadcast. Clicking on the item in the list opens a web browser to the web interface on that product.

As has been pointed out, the ECI-60 and JSD-80 currently do not support ping. I've added this to our Bugzilla system for the next time we revisit the code for these products. Also, note that very early ECI-60 units used a Lantronix device to provide the Ethernet interface. These older units do not have a web UI. Also, early JSD-80 units did not have an Ethernet jack on the back. The Ethernet jack was added before the rest of the hardware and firmware were introduced. Ethernet control of the JSD-80 was introduced at the same time the USB interface was added to the control card. So, if your system has the Ethernet jack and the USB connector, Ethernet should be supported (including the web UI). Units that have the Ethernet jack but not the USB connector can be updated by swapping out the control card. This adds USB and Ethernet capability to these older units.

Again, thanks for the hints on improving our products.

Harold

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Alban Birch
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 - posted 03-11-2013 10:54 AM      Profile for Alban Birch   Author's Homepage   Email Alban Birch   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Harold. I were just wondering about the Eth-port because our JSD80s from mid-late 2008 don't have any

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Ken Lackner
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Harold,

There appears to be an issue with the USL site. I noticed it yesterday after you posted the link to the Ethernet Discoverer. I thought it was just a temporary glitch that would work itself out shortly, but the problem still occurs. I can't load the main page at uslinc.com or the link that you posted.

Anyone else notice the same, or does USL just not like me? [Big Grin]

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Steve Guttag
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Main page works for me (Using Opera web browser) and the link worked (downloaded a ZIP file).

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Harold Hallikainen
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Because we're in the process of moving servers, there's a redirect to an unusual port number. Perhaps your browser did not like that. It works well for me using Firefox (which I use under several OSs). I have heard that some people have trouble getting to our download server at port 8880, though we have not been able to figure out why (it's worked with every browser we've tried from every location we've tried). Is it possible to try another browser there?

THANKS!

Harold

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Jussi Siponen
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quote: Harold Hallikainen
I have heard that some people have trouble getting to our download server at port 8880
This is not very common, but I've seen firewall installations where outbound connections are allowed only to specific ports, e.g. 80 and 443 -- everything else is stopped by a blanket DENY rule. The reasons for doing this include shoehorning a transparent proxy on network edge.

I suspect this is what's going on here.

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Ken Lackner
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quote: Jussi Siponen
shoehorning a transparent proxy on network edge
English?

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Jussi Siponen
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From: Mikkeli, Itä-Suomi, FINLAND
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quote: Ken Lackner
English?
A proxy server can be used for a number of purposes including caching, content filtering (antimalware, parental control or other content based rules) or recording activity logs.

A transparent proxy is invisible to the end user, because it intercepts normal communication without requiring any special client configuration. A transparent proxy is normally located between the client and the Internet (=the edge of your network), with the proxy performing some of the functions of a gateway or router.

Based on your description, either the firewall/router you use for Internet access or security software on your local computer is blocking access to TCP ports other than the standard 80 (http) and 443 (https) -- obviously ports for other well known services such as SMTP, IMAP, POP, FTP etc. may be allowed, but only these two are significant for the purpose of this discussion.

(The TCP port number is a logical concept for distinguising between various services a given host (=server) may offer. Think of a telephone PBX: "Hello, you've reached the XYZ Corporation. Press 80 access our web site, press 443 to access our web site securely, press 25 to send us an email ...")

Now the *reason* why you're blocked from accessing the USL's temporary server may be just an over-zealous firewall configuration but my first guess would be to expect a transparent proxy since such a tight firewall configuration would prevent circumventing the proxy by ... configuring your browser to use an another proxy!

Since I know nothing about the specifics of this situation, I can't advise if you should talk to corporate IT, your ISP, examine your home router configuration or change the configuration of your security software.

@Harold: using non-standard ports for services works well in controlled situations, but on the public Internet -- not so much.

I hope this was useful. Sorry for the previous, less than clear posting. I also recognize I've now completely ratholed this conversation and Brad must be rolling up his sleeves to slap me with a fish for it... [Big Grin]

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Gavin Lewarne
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if you already have a PC on the theatre or auditorium network why not just VPN into it from your phone and use RDP or something to run the dolby software? never worked with the 650 so don't know if it even has configuration PC software like the 750 does

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