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Tony Ratcliff
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 - posted 08-07-2014 07:14 PM      Profile for Tony Ratcliff   Email Tony Ratcliff   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Revisiting an old topic here, but I have the opportunity to purchase a NEC NC1600C.

What is everyone's thoughts in this? Good idea? Bad idea?
Pitfalls to look for?

Thanks!

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Justin Hamaker
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 - posted 08-07-2014 08:29 PM      Profile for Justin Hamaker   Author's Homepage   Email Justin Hamaker   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
As long as it otherwise specs out for your situation, the main question would be how long NEC intends to continue providing parts and software updates.

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Carsten Kurz
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Check wether it has the GORE board and wether it supports full panel triple flashing, if you're interested in doing 3D with it.

- Carsten

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I don't have an issue with older Series 1's. The only down side is that on those projectors you really don't know when they will pull parts support for them. Those NEC's are very reliable so in all likelihood you won't have much trouble with it. You might want to see if the seller has any service history on it before buying and use that to help decide to buy or not. We bought a number of Series 1 Barco's from a Theater chain in CA and they had the full service history in each projector and server. And that service record was quite extensive on those projectors over the 3 to 4 years they were installed. Interestingly, they were all replaced by Series 2 NEC's.

Mark

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Dave Macaulay
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Make sure you get the remote control. You need it.

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Gordon McLeod
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For the NEC you don't need the remote just log in with the S1 software if you don't know the IP use the RS232 interface

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Steve Guttag
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Thus far, I haven't seen any reason to worry about the GORE board either. Thus far, I haven't found any features that check for it. In not too much time, series 1 projectors are going to start to drop out of use as they fail and parts are not going to be available. Maybe not this year but certainly within the next couple. The NC1600 was towards the end of the series 1 so it is likely to have a bit more life in it than an earlier series 1.

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Carsten Kurz
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When buying a series1 projector which will rather sooner than later be a source of severe spare part pain, I sure would try to get it equipped as current as possible, especially since HDCP capability for DVI usually will come with the Gore board as well (type 4 and 5). And Tony mentioned earlier that they do quite a few DVD/BluRay Screenings. So it's worth checking for that feature. Also TLS (which can turn out to be a real problem with Doremi servers running on recent software if missing).

If this needs to be purchased later at regular prices, it will hardly be a bargain.

- Carsten

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Leo Enticknap
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We have an NEC2500S at one of the two theaters in my organization. The only real disadvantage we're facing at the moment is the one I mentioned in the "Dolby server questions" thread: series 1 with a DSS200 server means compatibility issues with later versions of the software, and sticking with an earlier version can cause subtitle problems with SMPTE DCPs. However, if your venue doesn't show foreign-language movies or hearing-impaired subtitles, I can't see this being an issue for you. On the plus side, my understanding is that series 1 means immunity from the Enigma link bug.

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