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Jorgen Larsen
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From: Denmark
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 - posted 05-12-2013 06:44 PM      Profile for Jorgen Larsen   Email Jorgen Larsen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This problem is also known in Denmark. We have not yet seen a solution to the problem, but it helps to switch to an analog format (05 or 04) and back again as Steve writes. But you will unfortunately have to "rewind" the movie back a little so the audience can see the sequence again.
I hope that soon there will be a solution to this annoying problem.
Incidentally, it seems that all digital cinemas in the world are facing similar problems.

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Marco Giustini
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all digital cinemas with CP650 and cat 790! This is not an issue if using any other solutions.

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Mohd Ridzuan
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From: K.L , Malaysia
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Hi All,

Just want to share mine. i've installed many doremi with cp650. some with 790 some without 790 card. without the 790 card i use USL Dax-602 (D-A converter) and with 790 card it's ok for a while likely about 1 month. After that the popping sound happen. i try to install the odyssey card also sometime its happen.

So for now on i just install the USL Dax-602 to prevent any popping sound.

Please advise or suggest if there a better method

Thanx

Mr. Wan

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Peter Angelo Bua-ay
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Thanks for all your sharing and comments. Since the cinema can't provide DA converter for now, what we did was to disable the surrounds sound (Ls,Rs and back surrounds). We observed that by disabling the surrounds eliminate the popping/robosound but of course with a lesser quality of sound.

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System Notices
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It has been 1644 days since the last post.


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Ken Lackner
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I'm back to researching this because I have a site that has had the problem in two different auditoriums recently. I'm not about to disable the surrounds, but I'm quite curious as to how that would prevent this issue from happening. Peter, how exactly did you disable the surrounds, and has it totally prevented the issue from reoccurring, or has the problem returned? (I figure four years would be long enough to determine if the problem is gone!)

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Sam D. Chavez
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I would assume they turned the amps off. Don't see what useful info you are hoping to learn here. By now they've probably switched to another processor.

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Jim Cassedy
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I had this problem at one location, and as Sam says, the easiest
way to deal with it was to turn off the surround amps.

- - But not permanently! Since this was an intermittent problem, that
only occurred once every several months, killing the surround amps
was the quickest way to "fix" the affected show until a complete re-
boot could be done before the next scheduled show.

Never had anyone complain about the surrounds being off. I doubt
they even noticed. They were just glad the 'noise' was gone.

Even though this problem only happened once every 3 or 4 months,
the staff kept whining that it was "too much trouble" to go up and
turn off a couple of switches in the booth to kill the surround amps,
or do a re-boot. So the theater eventually replaced the processor.

(But if it were up to me, I would have replaced the staff)

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Jack Ondracek
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When we converted, we had intermittent problems, which sound something like what's being reported here. Our initial installation was with Doremi's D-A converters. Replacing them with USL's converters fixed the problem (drive-in. We don't use processors here).

It appears our problem was related to electrical noise, getting into the unshielded CAT-5 lines the installer used to run audio to the converters, which USL's appear to be less sensitive to.

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Ken Lackner
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What I'm hoping to learn here, Sam, is if the site found another temporary remedy other than stopping the show and rebooting the processor. I would not for a second assume that they replaced the processor. There are tons of these out there still running.

Jim, I'm not sure that the problem you describe is the infamous "robosound." I could be wrong, but I thought that was on all channels. Is CP-650 robosound unique to the surround channels?

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Sam D. Chavez
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Ken,

I guess but there are may more recent robo sound cases than one in Philippines. It can be a maddening issue to sort. I have a couple in my area and yet I've never heard it for myself. Everything I've ever heard about this involves the 790 card and the surround channels.

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Stephan Shelley
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Dolby has a beta CP650 firmware to get rid of the robosound issue. You can contact them to get it if you need it. One side effect the beta software has is a pop in the sound when switching between digital and analog inputs.

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Brad Miller
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The beta software reduces the issue, but it doesn't fix it completely.

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