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Carsten Kurz
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quote: Marco Giustini
Is the 745 up and running (projector on) when the system is rebooted?
Yes, they always need to power up the projector before starting the DSS200.

It's a bit complicated to communicate with him. It would be interesting to set the secure clock, then shut down the server, power on and go into the BIOS directly to see how the BIOS clock ended up.

He was actually successful to get the time 'right' by connecting a windows laptop with registry enabled NTP server, set to the Dolby configured NTP server IP address displayed during boot. Quick hack. So it seems he is not completely illiterate.

Just that, when he disconnects the notebook, the Dolby again reverts to the wrong secure clock, as this is not synced to NTP, at least not easily, as Steve explained.
I understand that the secure clock will NEVER be synced to NTP, only manual adjustment is possible? I wouldn't care about the secure clock being off as long as I can adjust it manually often enough within allowed limits. Show manager clock/system clock being constantly off is the annoying thing.

They have two DSS200/745 combos in distant booths, with no cabling in between. I suggested to start with a bare patch cable between the servers, he will try to get this going. They have a router with it's own LAN side NTP server, itself being synced from a WAN NTP server. Once they are networked, this router could be a cheap option.

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Marco Giustini
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I am not 100% sure but I believe the 745 will eventually sync to the server ONLY if the NTP daemon trusts the server's NTP, which is very unlikely to happen on a Dolby server for how the NTP protocol has been designed.
Again, the NTP daemon can realise if the server which is supposed to sync to is not synced to anything and will refuse to lock on it if that is the case.
The reason why a Dolby will sync to any computer running an NTP server when booted up, regardless whether the computer is properly locked to a reliable NTP source, is because the startup script contains a ntpdate command, just before the NTP service is started. ntpdate will sync the time straight away, regardless of the conditions of the time source.

But then the NTP daemon will refuse to lock to the source if the source reports it's not locked to a reliable NTP source.

If you sync your server using an NTP and then shut it down, you will find the BIOS has not been changed. As said, the BIOS is synced to the system time when Linux is properly shut down.

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Kevin Fairchild
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quote: Marco Giustini
tell him to press CTRL-ALT-F1 and then CTRL-ALT-DEL

Linux as default saves the system clock to the BIOS when the system is shutting down

THANK YOU! I tried this and confirmed it works. You can also login and reboot over SSH as administrator.

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Marco Giustini
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Thank you, I wasn't sure it would work.
Yes, you can also run the reboot script, but that's mainly for remote purpose, where you can't press CTRL-ALT-DEL! [Smile]

I still feel Dolby should add a "reboot" button, it escapes me why they're not adding one.

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Steve Guttag
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I would like a reboot script that is executable via serial/Ethernet. There is the "power" button behind the bezel.

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Marco Giustini
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There is, reboot.sh, scripts folder.

Oh wait, you mean to reboot by ethernet RAW command or serial? Why?
I can shutdown my NAS by SSH, you may be able to do so with a Linux server. I can't remember the name of the command line SSH programme, I'll need to check, but you can send username, password and a single instruction on a single CLI line. It should work, after all it's Linux.

The power button removes power, I want a 'reboot' software button, I can't see why there isn't one.

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Steve Guttag
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I'd like to schedule "graceful" reboots rather than hard yanking of the power. Even if the routine is to do a graceful shutdown...yank power...reapply power...boot up. I never liked the idea of just yanking the power.

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Marco Giustini
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neither have I. That's why I'd like to see a "reboot" and "shutdown" button on the GUI.

I believe it could have been putty - not home now, I'll check later, but you can try with

c:\putty.exe -ssh administrator@dolby_IP -pw {password} reboot

or whatever reboots a Linuz system, maybe "reboot now"?

I believe that

c:\putty.exe -ssh administrator@dolby_IP -pw {password} halt

should shut it down. You may be to ssh with root privileges though. It's worth a try, it works on my NAS [Smile]

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Pete Naples
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I just putty in as administrator and issue 'reboot'.

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Marco Giustini
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I believe Steve is looking for a way to automate the reboot.

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Steve Guttag
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That is correct...Using PuTTY to reboot is simple enough but I'd like our automation (eCNA) to be able to issue a periodic reboot command.

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Scott Norwood
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Steve--what can your automation system do? Just send serial commands or make TCP connections to a specific port?

How much do you trust the local network and are you willing to modify the operating system in a way that Dolby might not appreciate?

If you have a totally trusted network, the simplest solution would be to set up an inetd service that accepts TCP connections on a particular port and calls /sbin/reboot when a particular string is sent to that port.

Alternatively, you could enable the serial console and have the automation send a root-level username and password and the command /sbin/reboot to it. (This would not work if the Dolby server uses the serial port for anything internally. Does it?)

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Pete Naples
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Ah I see Steve, sorry I didn't catch that fully.

How about a Raspberry Pi or similar device running a script on command or schedule?

I've a couple of routers here that are set to auto-reboot at 06:00 every Sunday.

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Gordon McLeod
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Since are RS232 automation can send serial back to the server on a dry contact closure i guess it would be possible to schedule a SPL to tell it to send back to the server a shut down command
Currently in our non vpf houses that power down each night we have a shut down SPL that tells the server to power off and projector go to standby

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Carsten Kurz
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Gordon, but that is not on a Dolby server, right?

- Carsten

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