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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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quote: Buck Wilson
And yes, probably excluding domes, he has the two largest and highest grossing IMAX screens in North America.
Probably Buck, tell us Buck...I think Warren is full of horseshit and that screen is not the size of a basketball court. As for Warren having the largest IMAX screen, that is not possible, his IMAX screens are digital and the current IMAX Xenon setup will max out at around 70 feet. Seeing how the Lincoln Square cannot fill the width of their IMAX 15/70 screen due to the limitation of Xenons IMAX Digital, his screen is one of the larger digital IMAX screen in North America, not the largest. I think he bullshits his numbers and nobody has called him on it. And yes the lobby looks tacky to me. His curtains are nice I must say but the curve looks stupid even he has a patent for it [Moon]

quote: Jarod Reddig
I agree with Mike Im not a fan of the whole eating dinner and watching a movie thing. I love to eat so when I do all Im concentrating on is my food. I could never get lost in a movie while trying to eat dinner let alone waiters walking all around. I do love this theater though. Ill visit it
I don't understand the dinner and a movie thing either, but I guess some moviegoers do not get lost in the movie or need to hear every line of dialog like others do. I have always wondered as to how dark the cinema is while the food is being eaten.

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Manny Montes
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I like the decor of the lobby though I have to agree that it really isn't "old timey feeling", the only thing I found really tacky is the light show. I think its a bit overdone, raise the curtains and have that level of showmanship but I bought tickets to a movie theater, not a trans-siberian orchestra rock show (I was honestly expecting some pyrotechnics).

It's nice that it shows that he cares though, overall looks like a classy place, just need to cut that light show, hopefully it was just for the preview events.

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Buck Wilson
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I'm not a HUGE fan of the eat-in concept, but I do tend to eat in them. I just show up half an hour early if I plan on eating so I can get settled in and well into my meal by the time the movie starts, then just pick at the remainder for the rest of the movie.

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Mike Spaeth
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So, Buck, care to share where you get the data proving he has the highest-grossing IMAX screens in the country? My Rentrak account doesn't agree with your assessment.

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Buck Wilson
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Can't say I have hard-and-fast facts. Just googled "highest grossing imax" and "largest imax" and the Broken Arrow Warren; Moore, OK Warren; and one of the Wichita KS Warren theaters are all over those results. Couldn't find any numbers OR anyone disputing those claims though....

Why don't you share the real facts?

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Manny Montes
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The only thing I can find to substatiate his claim is a wikipedia article which has a news article as the source. The news article states "Almost 7,000 patrons spent a little more than $90,000 last weekend at Bill Warren's west Wichita IMAX theater, making it the top performing IMAX in North America"

It sounds like for one weekend they were the busiest and kind of rode that fame for a bit including it being on their wikipedia page. However this was their brand new theater opening and it was competing against theaters that had opened tron legacy 3 weeks prior.

Then again, he's not the first person to twist numbers to be a litle more favorable for marketing, so I can't really fault him for it.

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Marcel Birgelen
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quote: Brad Miller
When I hear Belgium I think Barco, but Warren is a Christie chain. Anyone know?
Shouldn't you think beer, french fries and chocolate? [Smile] According to Bobby Henderson in this topic:

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I'm pretty sure, but not absolutely certain, the projection systems for the two Grand Infinity auditoriums at the Broken Arrow Warren theater opening next week in Broken Arrow, OK are Christie 6P laser models.
Maybe Bobby knows the definite answer by now? Is it an Belgian import or "Made in the U.S. of A."?

quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
tacky to me. His curtains are nice I must say but the curve looks stupid even he has a patent for it
I don't think Bill Warren deserves so much "hate". Personally, for a place that's essentially a large, 18-screen multiplex, this thing looks awesome. Instead of putting his money into a bigger house, bigger boat or fleet of luxury cars, he actually created something for the public. Since this place is not really around the corner, my judgements are based on the series of YouTube movies and on-line pictures available.

The place might not be an authentic, old cinema, the "ersatz Art Deco" might be faux and the theming might not be up to the standards of the best Disney theme parks... but still, if I had to choose between the run-of-the-mill multiplex down the street or one of his places, the choice would be rather easy.

I do like the curtain light show, but I think it would make a bigger and more sustained impact, if it wasn't as much "in your face". So, keep it down to just a short sequence just before opening the curtain. I don't think you do need special music, or try to make the music blend in better with the music that was running before the show and a little less dramatic. Often, a little less is a whole lot more.

quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
Probably Buck, tell us Buck...I think Warren is full of horseshit and that screen is not the size of a basketball court.
A basket ball court has a surface of about 4700 square feet. While that's certainly a big screen, it's not like it has never been done before.

And besides all the marketing fluff, you read stuff like the "biggest noodle dryer between bumfuck and nowhere" every time, everywhere. It's also somewhat understandable somebody is trying to advertise his multimillion dollar investment with strong, subjective arguments.

quote: Manny Montes
The only thing I can find to substatiate his claim is a wikipedia article which has a news article as the source. The news article states "Almost 7,000 patrons spent a little more than $90,000 last weekend at Bill Warren's west Wichita IMAX theater, making it the top performing IMAX in North America"
Unfortunately, the references for this paragraph are no good. One is leading back to the Warren Theaters website, not really an unbiased source and the other one leads straight to a GoDaddy catch page.

Still, this guy opened a few major projects in just a few years time. So, I guess the numbers seem to work out for him until now.

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Sam Graham
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What I can tell you about Warren's IMAX claims is that they were built WAY out of spec size wise, and it took some convincing the IMAX folks to allow that. As I noted in my "Tron: Legacy" review, the picture suffers accordingly.

As for those actually complaining about the Art Deco decor, please go back to your purple Cinemarks and burnt sienna Carmikes and resume your soulless existence.

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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quote: Manny Montes
Then again, he's not the first person to twist numbers to be a litle more favorable for marketing, so I can't really fault him for it.
No, he isn't the first person to twist numbers, I believe Warren also claimed that the Broken Arrow theater was the first theater in North America to have laser projection. We now know that is not true as the Seattle Cinerama and the Cineplex Scotiabank beat Warren to the laser debut.

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Martin McCaffery
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quote: Sam Graham
As for those actually complaining about the Art Deco decor, please go back to your purple Cinemarks and burnt sienna Carmikes and resume your soulless existence.

The alternative to Bad is not Worse [Wink]

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Marcel Birgelen
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quote: Terry Lynn-Stevens
No, he isn't the first person to twist numbers, I believe Warren also claimed that the Broken Arrow theater was the first theater in North America to have laser projection. We now know that is not true as the Seattle Cinerama and the Cineplex Scotiabank beat Warren to the laser debut.
Well, do we know if he, the man, himself claimed this? It was featured in a press release put out by THX. Many of the "facts" cited by news reports come from those kind of PR releases.

Anyway, whether those rather unimportant marketing claims are valid or not, are of no importance to the actual quality of the place itself.

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Bobby Henderson
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Warren's claims of having the nation's "first and only" 4K laser projection systems were printed big on their web site. As for who was really first to buy and/or install their laser projectors that's pretty unclear now.

It's funny that Terry is whining so much about Warren Theaters bending the truth in their marketing. Terry doesn't mind at all when the lying and misleading is coming from IMAX.

One thing we do know is IMAX isn't rolling out their new laser projectors in the form of a final, ready to install product. The Bullock Texas State History Museum IMAX theater just removed their 15/70mm film-based system and installed a pair of plain old 2K DLP projectors and a smaller 65' screen. And they call it "progress."
[Roll Eyes]

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quote: Buck Wilson
I'd wager that it's just 5 minutes prior to the show, or intermittent, or something along those lines. Perhaps the colors just slowly change with unrelated muzak in the background until the big curtain opening thing.
The one video says "Light show before every movie!" But I wonder (1) How long the light show is...is it a full song or a shorter thing? and (2) Is it on all screens or just the gigantic basketball court sized ones?

I guess if I was in charge of that light show, I would edit my preferred tune down to say 45 seconds. That way people wouldn't get tired of it or roll their eyes at it and you wouldn't need to use all your "effects" for every performance. "Leave'em wanting more" is a good rule to follow in showbiz.

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Marcel Birgelen
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quote: Bobby Henderson
Warren's claims of having the nation's "first and only" 4K laser projection systems were printed big on their web site. As for who was really first to buy and/or install their laser projectors that's pretty unclear now.
It's really just nitpicking, but I guess what matters most is when it opened to the public. The Seattle Cinerama reopened on November 20 last year with The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 1. That's about a month earlier than both of Warren's Grand Infinity auditoriums.

Maybe, if this setup is actually a Barco setup, they could still claim the first Barco laser deployment in North America...

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Terry Lynn-Stevens
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quote: Mike Blakesley
The one video says "Light show before every movie!" But I wonder (1) How long the light show is...is it a full song or a shorter thing? and (2) Is it on all screens or just the gigantic basketball court sized ones?

I would hope the voice over and silly laser show along with the current was just for the IMAX and Grand Infinity screens, to do that for every single show seems like overkill and the novelty wears off. I wonder if the music also changes from time to time.

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