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Marcel Birgelen
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 - posted 02-08-2015 05:36 PM      Profile for Marcel Birgelen   Email Marcel Birgelen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Marco Giustini
What I am trying to find out is whether the BD player is actually sending AC3 or 5.1 LPCM - the latter being officially supported by the 745.
It might sound like an awkward solution, but you don't have some kind of consumer AVR lying around with HDMI 1.4 input (HDMI 1.4 capable AVRs usually also support LPCM surround)? Those things are often far better at telling you what comes trough at the other end of the HDMI wire than most of this expensive digital cinema gear that considers HDMI to be a toy interface [Wink] . Those things are also far cheaper than those professional HDMI analyzers, which also happen to suck in this regards, as they usually can tell you all about the signal quality, but less about what's actually in the signal.

The problem here, off course, is that the EDID of your AVR will be different, but there's an interesting little device called Dr. HDMI that can fake EDIDs for you.

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Carsten Kurz
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Which BluRay player was that? HDMI codecs is done handshaking. You can not force an AC3 stream into a sink that is not capable of AC3. This is different from S/P-DIF, which is unidirectional. You can configure Bitstream AC3 or dts on an output even if the receiver knows nothing about these codecs.

Last Dolby release note I read said that only LPCM is possible.

However, some Players decode common codecs to LPCM automatically if the sink is not codec-capable. You may choose a dts or Dolby track in the disc, but the player sends LPCM to the output. If the sink has no status display for incoming audio, you don't recognize this.

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Steve Guttag
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From what I can tell, an upcoming Dolby release (4.8.4) will support AC3 in some way...if that means it will actually decode on the CAT745 or not, I don't know. I suspect that 4.8.4 will hit the streets within a month or so.

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Marcel Birgelen
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Your average digital cinema processor expects discrete LPCM channels on the AES EBU connections between your server/IMB and the processor, so where else could the decoding take place? Or what does "support" otherwise entail?

The safest bet when using external surround sound sources is still to bypass your server/IMB completely if at all possible.

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