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Marco Giustini
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 - posted 02-18-2015 03:40 PM      Profile for Marco Giustini   Email Marco Giustini   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
a cold joint is a a solder joint which is giving intermittent contact.

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Fernando Caldeira
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 - posted 02-19-2015 04:53 AM      Profile for Fernando Caldeira   Author's Homepage   Email Fernando Caldeira   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thanks Marco thats what I thought.

Yesterday we changed the DB25 conector and all 4 ohm converters.

We will be spending the next 2 weeks trying to force the problem, testing all movies for the upcoming festivals.

Lets see what happens

Cheers
Fernando

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Fernando Caldeira
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 - posted 03-03-2015 02:27 PM      Profile for Fernando Caldeira   Author's Homepage   Email Fernando Caldeira   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I think we finaly got it. Marco was right. The ethernet cable that conects the server to the IMB had the plug loose so it was going in and out just enough to loose the C channel. Made it happen a couple of times to make shure that was the problem and replaced the cable.

Thanks for all the help.

Cheers
Fernando

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Carsten Kurz
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That cable uses 4 AES pairs, each one carrying TWO channels at the same time. You can not lose ONLY the center channel (except if you are using a very weird server side channel mapping). So, it is impossible to lose the Center channel without losing the Subwoofer/LFE at the same time. If you say the center channel goes away on the Display, but not the LFE, there must be something wrong with your diagnosis.

As I wrote earlier, it is easy not to notice a missing LFE by ear, but not on a signal
display.

Edit: You don't really mean the cable from the Server to the IMB? That is a PCIe connection, i'd say it is impossible to lose just a center channel on that one.
You sure mean the audio CAT5 cable from the IMB to Dolby processor/Neutrik impedance converter?

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Sam D. Chavez
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Some 650's display phantom noise on the sub channel display so this might explain both your points.

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Fernando Caldeira
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Carsten, my mistake, you are absolutely right.

I have a video I did on my phone of the problem has it happened. Is the a way to post it here?

IŽll get some pictures up of the cable that was giving me the problems. Perhaps that will answer some of the doubts.

I donŽt want to be misleading anyone.

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Carsten Kurz
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Oops, all in all, a lot of adaptors used on that installation. You really have to keep an eye on them. And most installers seem to buy only the cheapest CAT5 cables around...

- Carsten

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