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Sam D. Chavez
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 - posted 07-03-2015 05:40 PM      Profile for Sam D. Chavez   Author's Homepage     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If this is the same Murray I know, he buys a lot of goods used and cheap and fixes them up. He may not be a Barco dealer FWIW.

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Martin Murray
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Sam, used, yes, cheap not always. Lol

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Marcel Birgelen
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So, essentially you're blaming Barco for the fact that's it rather hard to shop for parts on Ebay and other aftermarkets? I'm not so sure this market is so livid for Christie, NEC or Sony either...

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Martin Murray
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No Marcel, you are incorrect on your assumption. All of my dp3000'stuff were purchased directly from Terri at barco. There have been many failures through the years of different boards, coolant pumps, and power supplies. Problems that simply do not exist with the christies. Over the years there have been several delays getting answers about problems or parts ordered for various reasons through different dealers, these same dealers also supplies Christie parts to me with none of the same issues. When the barcos are running they are fine, it's the unexpected lost shows that I dislike. I know some will say different but this has been my experience. Oh and as far as shopping ebay, it's a wonderful tool for obsolete parts for equipment that the oem no longer supplies.

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Stephan Shelley
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I have lost plenty of Christie coolant pumps. 3 out of 6 projectors over 6 years. At another site pump acted erratic withing the first hour of operation. Lost a few boards as well.

They all have there ups and downs. Some of the early series 1s are a little temperamental and showing their age.

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Martin Murray
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That is true!

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Rosario Drago
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hi, I have created a mounting bracket for the wheel dolby 3d for barco series B ( 19-23-32 ) , which fits simply in the slot on the cooling block , without changing anything on the projector . We installed some and are fully functional

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Magnus Eriksson
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Interesting. Any pictures?
Do you use a DFC100?
/M.E.

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Rosario Drago
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Yes, the complete kit with DFC100. I can send you some pictures by email.

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Marco Giustini
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out of curiosity, why not just ordering the Barco kit?

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Rosario Drago
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We used the Kit already installed on series-1

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Dave Macaulay
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"out of curiosity, why not just ordering the Barco kit? "
If you have a S1 colorwheel you're not using, it saves several thousand dollars to use that and not buy the DP32B assembly.

DP3000 projectors have caused me a fair bit of grief. I agree the big old CP2000 Christies are tanks, the only problem I would call endemic is the failing coolant connectors.
Parts supply for us has been excellent from Barco. Very rarely something needs to come from Belgium - almost all parts are stocked in N. America.
Both Christie and Barco have supported their S1 projectors with no parts or support problems so far. Christie is a bit unreachable nights/weekends unless you have a NOC contract... and their NOC is separate from their tech support. Barco has 24/7 support, their NOC projector support line gets you the same guys you get by calling tech support.
Between a CP2230/4230 and a 32B, I would take the 32B in a heartbeat.
On the used market though... between a DP3000 and CP2000S, the Christie is a better bet. And it has wheels.

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Sam D. Chavez
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What Dave said.

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Steve Guttag
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What Dave said though I have not had the failing coolant connectors on any yet (though I'll be looking even closer on the next PM visits...have one that is 11-years old too). I look reasonably close since Barco had an Info-T on their series 1 connectors (white plastic that develop cracks...also haven't had to change any yet).

It would be interesting to see your pictures of the Dolby kit in a B series. I can see advantages and disadvantages to doing that...clear advantages if you already own the kit! You also get a semi-automatic system with the Dolby kit if you are doing the HFR stuff. With the Barco system, you HAVE to have separate macros to spin the Barco 3D system at different frame rate/flash rate...the DFC100 merely responds to the frequency and switches mode/timings.

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Magnus Eriksson
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@Rosario: Yes, please send some pictures (or make them available here). That would be interesting to see.
/M.E.

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