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Carsten Kurz
Film God

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From: Cologne, NRW, Germany
Registered: Aug 2009

posted 12-11-2015 07:16 AM

quote: Monte L Fullmer
When, I start the 7pm showing this coming Thursday night, I have started ALL seven episodes of Star Wars ... beginning with the original 1977 release, then the 1980, 1983, 1999, 2002, and the last one in 2005.

Going from carbon arc, changeover days, to platter and xenon,
then to digital.

That's a nice track record...

- Carsten

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Mike Blakesley
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posted 12-11-2015 11:52 AM

quote: Rick Cohen
Personally, I have never, not even once, experienced a faulty DCP once it has been ingested on the server.

I have. Fairly early in to digital, we had some movie (from Deluxe) that had a glitch in the DCP that would cause the entire program to start back at the beginning. It was as if I pressed "Stop" and then pressed "Play" again. I tried "live-playing" off the shipping drive and had the same issue. The only way around it was to pause the movie at the appropriate time, skip ahead about 30 seconds and then hit Play again.

Back to Star Wars - I plan to pretty much skim Facebook (and not read any reviews) until I get a chance to watch the movie. People are so addicted to their social media these days it's ridiculous. But everyone should know whose Twitter feeds to tune out temporarily. Just don't look at the spoilers. (And there should be a special place in hell for writers who put spoilers like "Darth is Luke's Father!!!" in headlines.)

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Monte L Fullmer
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From: Nampa, Idaho, USA
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posted 12-11-2015 12:35 PM

quote: Rick Cohen
Personally, I have never, not even once, experienced a faulty DCP once it has been ingested on the server

Wait until you get some more experience with this digital stuff, for you'll have your first time with this, for all of us had bad content from time to time.

I had to get two drives in due to glitches in the content and I didn't have the luxury of going "live play" at the time. Third drive was the clean one that saved me.

Never ending battle with this digital stuff-changes all the time being washing machines with computers installed in them.

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Justin Hamaker
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From: Lakeport, CA USA
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posted 12-11-2015 12:58 PM

quote: Rick Cohen
Personally, I have never, not even once, experienced a faulty DCP once it has been ingested on the server. So the argument some people make about desperately needing to QC every DCP 48 hours in advance of an opening is flimsy at best.

The best example of why QC screenings is important is Puss In Boots. This movie had an issue where the 7.1 rear channel and descriptive audio tracks were put on the wrong channel. Theatres that had did not check their shows before hand opened the movie Friday afternoon and immediately had people coming out to complain that they had the narration coming out of the back channel.

The issue is just that there is no reason why a theatre should not be able to actually check the entire presentation of each movie prior to opening for the public. This gives us the opportunity to verify automation cues, check for issues with speakers, check the picture's brightness, and more. And it should be allowed early enough so that in the rare case a problem is found there is ample time to get replacement content, or fix equipment problems.

Another example is the special aspect ratios required for Jurassic World and Tomorrowland this past summer. We should have actually been given the ability to play the content - or at least a large test real as much as a week before the opening.

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Joris Springer
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From: Almere, Flevoland, The Netherlands
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posted 12-11-2015 02:29 PM

I was actually surprised that we got the keys that unlock at Tuesday the 15th 0:01 am [Smile]

. I was worried that it would unlock 30 minutes before the first show on Wednesday but this is plenty of enough time to check the quality and to locate the credits offset which they forgot to mention.

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Michael Putlack
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From: Fort Collins, Colorado
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posted 12-12-2015 12:34 AM

Our keys open 24 hours before our first screening. Plenty of time to run a few tests.

Good on Disney for realizing it might be worth a few people watching the film early in exchange for getting the presentation right.

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Geoff Jones
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From: Broomfield, CO, USA
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posted 12-14-2015 09:18 AM

I'm seeing Star Wars in 2D on a screen that I'm told has a 4k projector. (Harkins Northfield Cine Capri)

What resolution will they be projecting? 2K or 4K?

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Adam Martin
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posted 12-14-2015 10:23 AM

Star Wars is a 2K file.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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posted 12-14-2015 10:37 AM

^ not only image but I'm curious what the audio is on the DCP's (of the six films) considering the blurays are all 6.1; and Ep. 2 and 3 (and I think 1) was native DTS-ES, Dolby EX 6.1 in the first place.

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Mike Schulz
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From: Los Angeles, CA
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posted 12-14-2015 12:13 PM

All six of the marathon DCPs are 5.1 audio. The unfortunate thing is that they were all created last month and are the 2011 Special Edition version and not the ones that FOX had made 5 or so years ago that were the 1997 version. They at least all retain the FOX logo and fanfare at the beginning of each film so 6/7 isn't bad for all of you who were complaining about the new one not having them.

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Geoff Jones
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posted 12-14-2015 12:48 PM

Thanks Adam.

Bummer.

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Frank Cox
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posted 12-14-2015 01:17 PM

I always watch the movie myself before showing it to the public ever since I got the digital stuff -- the only one that I couldn't do that for was the second-last Hunger Games movie since it showed up so late all I could do was play-and-pray.

Not too long after I first got my digital setup, I had a movie that played in the WRONG ORDER like the reels had been mixed up. I can't remember the title right now but I phoned Technicolor or Deluxe and they emailed me a little file of some sort to ingest and that solved the problem - the movie then played in the correct order. It was so soon after I got the digital setup that I didn't really know what I was doing at the time but I was sure glad that I had tried to watch the movie in advance.

If you don't watch the entire movie by yourself from start to finish before playing it for the public, you're taking a very foolish chance. Even if you have to stay up extra late at night to watch it it's well worth doing -- I've had a few occasions when I was sitting in my auditorium until about 4am to watch tomorrow's movie.

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Geoff Jones
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posted 12-14-2015 01:24 PM

Mike, you had a typo in your post.

quote: Mike Schulz
The unfortunate thing is that they were all created last month and are the 2011 Special Edition version and not the

original versions that captured the imaginations of millions of moviegoers and won awards for things like editing, effects, sound, and music.

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Mike Schulz
Expert Film Handler

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From: Los Angeles, CA
Registered: May 2007

posted 12-14-2015 01:32 PM

quote: Geoff Jones
original versions that captured the imaginations of millions of moviegoers and won awards for things like editing, effects, sound, and music.

Well you know I agree with you 100% on this but given that the chances of actually getting a DCP of the original version are virtually nil, I'd much rather have the 1997 SE over the crap that has been changed and put in since then.

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Dave Bird
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From: Perth, Ontario, Canada
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posted 12-14-2015 07:37 PM

Occasionally (like once every couple years) a studio rep will call me on my cellphone to see if we'd been able to run a "quality check" before opening. I always say "No, we're a drive-in." Not sure whether she heard me correctly last time, she asked me if I thought we'd get a chance in the afternoon. "Uh, no, we're having an issue with the auditorium lighting." We make sure whoever is at the theatre keeps close eye on Fridays, screen is visible in the snack bar and volume loud enough to hear the soundtrack.

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