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Pietro Clarici
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I wish... still have a CP500 + DMA8 in that theater, it's manual volume control for me! [Big Grin]

Yes, digital equipment still lacks a lot of very obvious features, it's clear most of it hasn't been designed with a focus on showmanship and usability. I can't believe we had to wait till last year to have intermission support on Doremi servers.

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Carsten Kurz
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If you use Doremi servers - they have their own digital gain control cue. The timing resolution I think is only 1s, but it would still allow 'some' graceful fade out over a couple of seconds.

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Jack Ondracek
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quote: Brian DeCiancio
Is this the same contract that requires moveable masking, 5.1 sound, a GORE/Enigma board and 14fl in order to be DCI compliant?

quote: James Waite
Personally I don't care if we are 'allowed' to insert an intermission or not. I was kind of insulted that just because I couldn't make it to a 70mm show I had to try to sit through a 3 hour movie having to take a leak the last hour.

No. This would be language you'd find in your master contract. I don't know if Canada has different language, but whether you care or not would probably relate to whether the business belongs to you and how much risk you're willing to take. Frankly, I don't think the studios care that someone might have been insulted over the workings of different media.

Years ago, I had a legitimate problem during the credits of a Disney show. It was something like 30 seconds before the roll ended and I didn't think much beyond getting the problem fixed. Before the next week was out, I got a note from my booker, telling me that a customer had complained to Disney that I had dropped the credits intentionally, and Disney wanted to know what that was about.

It only took the explanation to clear the matter, and I didn't heard about it again. Still, you never know...

Incidentally... this is the same language the studios referenced when informing us the trailers they spliced on the front of the prints were, in their opinions, "integral parts of the booking" and had to be played as provided. Just cutting the trailer to insert a policy snipe was enough to violate the rule. I'm not sure anyone took it seriously, but to each his own!

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Steve Guttag
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I've YET to see the "DCI POLICE" in theatres. Save one, only none of our series-1 projectors have GORE boards that are not in a VPF agreement. The VPF agreements required the GORE boards. One would think that via KDM they could have enforced that one alone. Clearly, the system "knows" that the "security enclosure" is present and armed (Says so in the status of the respective projectors or TI control program).

And if the masking rule was enforced...boy would the big-boys, including the new Dolby Vision Theatres would be out of compliance. Which shows what a sham it all is because Regal/AMC can still do whatever they want.

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Pietro Clarici
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quote: Carsten Kurz
If you use Doremi servers - they have their own digital gain control cue.
Wow, I had no idea - should have tinkered with the Macro Editor more. Thanks a lot!

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James Waite
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I haven't played with it yet so I'd probably figure it out but...I'm confused in the intermission function in Doremi why it has the rewind part?

I figured it would stop the movie, play the intermission playlist, then restart the movie at the same place.

So what's the rewind bit for?

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Travis Cape
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I went to see this twice in 70mm. We then played the digital version at our theater. I was concerned about the intermission. The paperwork enclosed with the drive was for the roadshow version. I knew that was a mistake, so I called Technicolor. After being put on hold a couple times, I was told that the multiplex version shouldn't have an intermission.

I then loaded the drive and skipped to the point where the intermission should have been. As previously stated, piano lid shuts, cuts to black and resumes with a voice-over that approximately 15 minutes have passed. I made a sign for the auditorium door stating that there would be an intermission at such point. I inserted a pause cue. We have GDC servers and I don't have an intermission function. It upset me to not have an intermission title card, but it would have upset me more to not have an intermission.

The customers did appreciate the break. If they didn't want an intermission, they shouldn't have mentioned it in the voice-over.

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Carsten Kurz
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quote: James Waite
So what's the rewind bit for?
For the same purpose it is used e.g. in tv serials/feature intermissions - in order to replay the last couple of seconds before the intermission in order to allow the audience to tune back into the story. That is clearly for features without a dedicated intermission. It would be useless to play the last seconds before the fade-to-black intermission point of 'The Hateful Eight'.

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James Waite
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I wondered if it was something like that.

I found a fun 10 minute countdown.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QF9rciWvGXI

This is where DCP-O-Matic is so useful.

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