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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Buck, LOL! You should see the IMS if you think their servers are a cluster.

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Christopher Lani
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Have to agree with the 2215. Run ours 2 years now without a single problem. Plenty of light, the contrast is great. Just a workhorse of a projector.

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Brad Miller
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quote: Steve Guttag
On the Doremi...WHY on the control screen do you have NO IDEA of what show is going to play when you hit play (or if in schedule mode will play)
Yup, highly annoying indeed. To see what will play next you have to go to the edit tab and scroll through the playlist and look at the contents. It's just a dumb design that has never been fixed. Even if Doremi/Dolby wanted to keep the GUI "backwards compatible" so people who are used to it the way it is now, simply adding a "load content" button doesn't in any way mean that someone couldn't switch to the editor tab, load the next playlist there like they are used to and then switch back to the playback tab. I've never asked them to remove that option, just add one "load playlist" button to make it more user-intuitive.

Like Steve, I couldn't care less what just DID play. I want to know what will play NEXT. All they need to do is make the server behave in this manner:

If not in scheduled mode, reload the last show and display that playlist name at the top.

If IN scheduled mode, eject the last show and preload the next scheduled show to play. Obviously this is too simple and logical. [Razz]

Another thing the Doremi GUI needs is a "load playlist" button ON the playback screen. What user is going to naturally think "if I leave the playback screen and go to the editor screen, maybe that's where I will load the next show to play"? Answer: nobody. It's something that must be shown to people.

And on the other topic, all of those IMS-type solutions with the hard drives on the IMB can still go take a hike. Really, really stupid design! Same for these servers that use an external NAS.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I agree that the hard drives being on the IMS is a very bad design. The GDC with the external PDP-3000 hard drive box is definitely the way to go these days. It's also the only hardware raid server being manufactured now. The nice thing is you can move the boxes between servers and just reboot and you have moved the content. They have also been uber reliable. Integrated servers are the way this whole industry is heading. If Dolby could straighten out the Doremi IMS they'd actually have something there. If they could put the Dolby GUI on it and locate the drives externally then they really have a nifty unit. In day to day theater operations there is no need for a dozen servers each drawing 300 watts plus. The IMS's only draw about 20 watts.

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Brad Miller
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So now that GDC is finally doing a hardware raid, suddenly you see the value and importance of it?

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Marco Giustini
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the IMS1000 has a Hardware RAID, not sure about the 2000.

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Mattias Mattsson
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quote: Steve Guttag
On the Doremi...WHY on the control screen do you have NO IDEA of what show is going to play when you hit play (or if in schedule mode will play)
There is a work-around for this annoying mis-feature:

If you press the pause button the show currently in the editor queues up on the playback tab.

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Steve Guttag
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The IMS2000 uses a software RAID. The Doremi peeps think that the hardware RAID of the IMS1000 was their misstep. Perhaps it was their choice of hardware or their implementation. The DSS hardware RAID solution was the best. That said, the DSS220 has retained much of the DSS200's capabilities of ingest while playing at pretty much full speed.

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Marco Giustini
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I see, in the end they had to replace the HW chip with another one. I have a feeling that with today's CPU's a software RAID can be as good as a HW one. Or at least very close - if the software is properly implemented.

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Mattias Mattsson
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There are indeed som interesting improvements going on with regards to the Linux sw RAID implementation: https://lwn.net/Articles/665299/

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Brian Mendelssohn
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I have a 17' wide screen... fixed with showing in flat, scope, and 1:33 formats. the throw is around 70'

I'm curious for this opinions on Christie CP-2208 vs CP-2215 as far as brightness and contrast

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Jarod Reddig
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Stay away from any design around the Solaria 1s. A local non profit uses one of these on a 22 ft wide scope screen and its dreadfully underlit with poor contrast and bad lenses.

Ps. Please delete double post from my phone. Thank you

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Jarod Reddig
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Stay away from any design around the Solaria 1s. A local non profit uses one of these on a 22 ft wide scope screen and its dreadfully underlit with poor contrast and bad lenses. Pony up for a Barco DP-2K or a brighter .98 chip Christie.

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