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Tony Bandiera Jr
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Re the old Series one in the opening post:

Is it still able to show encrypted content of any kind? Or is the current standard 2k DCP too much for it to handle?

Reason I am asking is I am toying with the idea of opening a (very) small cinema for our local residents here, and if I can get that system cheap enough the city might pay for it..

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Steve Kraus
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If you mean the 1.2K, I'm pretty sure that would not fly on resolution alone let alone encryption rules.

Were any 1.2K's in service continually from when they were put in up until replaced with 2K (or 4K for Sony) units? Or did those houses go back to film for a time?

I recall a visit to Chicago's McClurg Court's booth for the big screen (at the front of the two little houses after Cineplex made the old bleacher area into separate theates) when Boeing was installing one of the 1.2K's. I may have a Boeing business card somewhere.

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Sean Weitzel
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Here's the Barco machine that was installed at the Century 22 in San Jose, CA. I saw Phantom Menace projected from this machine. It along with everything else has since been scrapped.

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Steve Kraus
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Wasn't everything anamorphic on the 1.2K's?

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Monte L Fullmer
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I thought the 1.2 was the chip size being the presentation was still in a 2k resolution...

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Jim Cassedy
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quote: Jack Ondracek
I don't think Boeing had anything to do with the projectors...
and probably not directly with the exhibitors, either.

Jack-
The info in your reply about Boeing having excess bandwidth and that info
sort of matches what a friend who knows a lot about the aircraft industry told me.

I might have been wrong about actual encryption, since I've been able to find
some old press releases where Boeing boasts about its' satellite network being
'secure', but mentions nothing about actual "encryption".

Also- -as to my question about the projection equipment- - some circumstantial
info I've found, as well as something my avionics friend told me was that it's
possible that the original "digital cinema" projectors may have been procured
from, or the technology based on, some very high-resolution (for the time)
digital projection equipment developed by Hughes Aircraft for use in its' flight
simulators, which were widely used by both commercial airlines and the military
for pilot and crew training in the late 80's.

And, it seems Hughes used Boeing for the telemetry systems in the simulators,
so there was already a business link between the two companies.

In fact, the Hughes Aircraft digital simulator system and projectors were used in
building the original "Star Tours" ride at Disneyland. (1987) In 1993, Hughes
Aircraft sold their 'simulator division' to Thompson CSF, who continued to use the
technology to build flight simulators & theme park thrill-rides for some time afterwards.

I'm not sure if Thompson is still in the "thrill ride" business, although I was familiar
with their broadcast equipment when I worked in the TV biz during the late 1980's.

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Buck Wilson
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Doesn't surprise me... Hughes also partnered with GM in the mid 80's to help develop GM's Heads-Up Display system(Displays speed, turn signal indicators and other info onto the windshield) for their then new GM-10 platform now known as the W-body that underpinned the Grand Prix, Cutlass Supreme, Lumina, Regal, and later the Impala, Monte Carlo, etc

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Steve Kraus
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I think Hughes was involved in what became the D-ILA system of JVC.

These were 1280 x 1024 which is 1.25 : 1. Use a 1.9X anamorphic for Scope and a 1.5X gets you to around 1.85.

These sales listings on B&H were live when I just searched.

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I also found this on Barco's site.

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You can read the details here:
https://www.barco.com/en/Products/Projectors/Digital-cinema-projectors/The-Digital-Cinema-Experience_3.aspx

But some highlights: 1280 x 1024, DLP Cinema™ DMD™ Dark Metal 3 type. High security image processing card frame equipped with Dallas key. Contrast: 1350:1

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Phil Ranucci
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I remember hauling a Hughes/JVC machine up to the balcony of the Arlington in Santa Barbara. Can't recall the year, but I remember that it was built to an amazing standard. Looked like every piece was milled out of aluminum. But it was about 600 lbs and had really loud fans.
I was wrong, 1670lbs.
This must be the model, I don't know how many different versions there were.
http://pro.jvc.com/pro/hjt/products/ila12k.html

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Steve Kraus
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Doesn't Series 1 refer to the original line of 2K DLP cinema projectors from Christie, Barco, NEC, and that one oddball from DPI? Perhaps the 1.2K generation would be Series 0.

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Steve Guttag
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Yes, they are sometimes referred to Series 0 (never series 1) and other times Mark VII projectors.

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