my profile | my password | search | faq & rules | forum home

» Film-Tech Forum ARCHIVE   » Operations   » Digital Cinema Forum   » Wow..A New Dolby Cinema Properly Projecting Scope! (Page 2)

This topic comprises 2 pages: 1  2

Author Topic: Wow..A New Dolby Cinema Properly Projecting Scope! Buck Wilson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 894 From: St. Joseph MO, USA Registered: Sep 2010 posted 07-28-2016 09:32 AM                     That's a good looking auditorium. I think the purple is a camera anomaly though. Too bad. I'm balls deep in 80's and 90's coloring. Love it. Steve- When doing Scope with an anamorphic lens, does it use the WHOLE chip or *ALMOST* the whole chip? I know it's significantly more, just couldn't remember if it used the whole thing or not.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-28-2016 10:47 AM                     If an anamorphic setup in d-cinema is using the whole chip it's doing so in an artificial way. The server is stretching the image vertically to cover the whole chip and then the 1.25x anamorphic lens would stretch it horizontally to restore the normal proportions on screen. A better approach would be the movie studios rendering a higher resolution DI and giving the theater a pre-squeezed DCP. This would yield far better looking results and make the 'scope format respectable once again. It's just like the difference between anamorphic DVDs versus non-anamorphic. I can still watch some of my old "16x9 enhanced" DVDs on my big 65" HDTV set. But non-amamorphic ones like True Lies are just unwatchable; they look like a low-rez YouTube video. An even better approach would be making DLP chips that were closer to square than rectangular and using traditional 2:1 anamorphics. The lens, light path, etc. is naturally spherical in shape and a square covers that better. Light efficiency would be as good as it gets. Flat movies could be pillar-boxed in this setup. It would hardly be any sort of compromise given the fact hardly any movies are made in 1.85:1 or 1.66:1 ratios anymore.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-28-2016 04:32 PM                     Technically, it is "almost" the entire chip. To avoid scaling artifacts, we use 1.25X anamorphics and appropriate scaling in the PROJECTOR (Bobby, the server doesn't scale). It should be a 1.26X system to use the entire chip but that would tend to introduce visible artifacts. But what is a couple of pixels between friends!  |  IP: Logged Martin Brooks Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 900 From: Forest Hills, NY, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 07-29-2016 08:51 PM                        As I think I posted in another thread, the AMC Prime theater at the AMC Empire 25 on 42nd Street in NYC is also common height, but there's no masking. It looks very similar to the interior of the theater posted earlier in this thread - in fact, it's hard to tell them apart. I do wish that the butt vibrators had an on/off switch on the seats, but I find that they're usually heavily used in the trailers and then hardly used in the actual film. However, I have a friend who lives in Northern California who complained to me that a widescreen film he saw at an AMC Prime theatre (not sure which one) was not common height and was presented letterboxed. Regardless of how they're accomplishing the full-height widescreen, it looks damned good when the film was mastered for Dolby Vision.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 07-29-2016 10:05 PM                     Wrap screens = round corners.  |  IP: Logged Aron Toplitsky Expert Film Handler Posts: 113 From: Gardena, CA, USA Registered: May 2012 posted 07-30-2016 12:44 AM                     So it seems like the AMC Norwalk Dolby Cinema Theater is similar to the AMC Empire 25 location, it’s a Common Height screen with no masking, but as Monte wrote, a flat presentation will probably expose the sides of the screen. Will they actually care enough not to book a Flat film in this auditorium? And I just love how big the size of the screen is at Empire 25. I used to go to this theater quite frequently when I lived in NY. I’m pretty sure I’ve been in that auditorium before it was converted. Just thought I’d also mention I’ve been to the Dolby Cinema at AMC Century City in Los Angeles and that one is definitely a Common Width screen. Martin…I also noticed the bass in the seat is less during the feature but when they show the Dolby Cinema at AMC Prime trailer, it feels a bit ridiculous! An on/off switch would be great!  |  IP: Logged Monte L Fullmer Film God Posts: 8367 From: Nampa, Idaho, USA Registered: Nov 2004 posted 07-30-2016 04:07 AM                     They could have gone on farther and done Shadowbox to really make it look good .. and to hide the floating screen install.  |  IP: Logged Steve Guttag We forgot the crackers Gromit!!! Posts: 12814 From: Annapolis, MD Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-30-2016 09:34 AM                     Just because it is a wrap around screen, it doesn't preclude the installer from putting up flashing that would eliminate the rounded corner/edged. Glue velour to the flashing and you'll get a very straight edge that is light weight and easy to attach. However one could even use lumber that is again, covered with a black velour to create a crisp edge. It is just like putting a face-frame on cabinets. But without a curtain, you are a second class theatre. Without masking and a curtain, you are down to 3rd class before the picture ever hits the screen. It is the whole experience you are selling...from the purchase of the tickets until they exit the complex and are driving home...all of it adds up.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-30-2016 05:00 PM                     Somehow I think the theater designers are going for what they believe is a more high tech look along with mimicking the wall to wall and floor to ceiling appearance of an IMAX screen. In the end I think they end up with something that looks more like a giant front projection TV screen. With the letterboxing that occurs on the common width screens it's very much like a TV screen.  |  IP: Logged

All times are Central (GMT -6:00)

This topic comprises 2 pages: 1  2

Printer-friendly view of this topic

Hop To: Select a Forum: Category: Operations -------------------- Digital Cinema Forum Film Handlers' Forum Large Format Forum Ground Level Feature Info, Trailer Attachments & REAL Credit Offsets Category: Community -------------------- Film-Yak Film Handlers' Movie Reviews The Afterlife Bob Maar's Joke-A-Thon Category: Classified -------------------- Equipment and Supplies Wanted/For Sale Help Wanted/Seeking Employment Category: System -------------------- Software Beta Testing Forum

The Film-Tech Forums are designed for various members related to the cinema industry to express their opinions, viewpoints and testimonials on various products, services and events based upon speculation, personal knowledge and factual information through use, therefore all views represented here allow no liability upon the publishers of this web site and the owners of said views assume no liability for any ill will resulting from these postings. The posts made here are for educational as well as entertainment purposes and as such anyone viewing this portion of the website must accept these views as statements of the author of that opinion and agrees to release the authors from any and all liability.