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Author Topic: Subtitles cutting off Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 02-17-2018 07:34 PM                     I had already tried looking for it but couldn't find it in either.  |  IP: Logged Stephan Shelley Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 854 From: castro valley, CA, usa Registered: Nov 2014 posted 02-17-2018 07:38 PM                     Should be in the configuration menu.  |  IP: Logged Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 02-17-2018 08:14 PM                     Sorry. I misread the post. I will try enabling the GDC subtitle engine. Projector is rendering now.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 02-17-2018 08:23 PM                     Again, you could try to transfer one of the subtitle files to a PC and have a look (usually, double-clicking it will open it for viewing in a browser). If it's an Interop DCP, the subtitled DCP/CPL should be accompanied by a couple of folders, each one containing a TTF font file, and a subtitle reel XML file. The vertical alignment reference can be changed from top, center, to bottom. The vertical position for the text baseline is given in percent of frame height from reference. That is, if vertical reference is from top, running text exactly on the lower border is done by aligning it '100% from top'. The same could be done by '0% from bottom'. Note that putting text there will cut of descenders even if no cropping is active, because the text position is referenced to the text baseline, while the descenders stretch out below the baseline. So, if you have a chance to look into one of these files, check these values. In order for the the projector to position these subs properly, it needs to know about the active area configured in the Macro - otherwise it would reference e.g. 90% from the top of a flat active area for a scope movie. That's why it is important to have the proper PCF selected. A typical commercial scope DCP ('Moonlight') e.g. had one liners at 6% above bottom (94% from top), and the top line of two liners at 12% from bottom (88% from top). e.g. <Text HPosition="0" VAlign="bottom" VPosition="12">Hey, Mom.</Text> <Text HPosition="0" VAlign="bottom" VPosition="6">- You can't stay here today.</Text> - Carsten  |  IP: Logged Richard May Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1057 From: Floral Park, NY USA Registered: Aug 2004 posted 02-17-2018 08:27 PM                     I enabled the GDC subtitle engine and the subs are all correct now. Not sure why but it works. Thanks guys.  |  IP: Logged Carsten Kurz Film God Posts: 4340 From: Cologne, NRW, Germany Registered: Aug 2009 posted 02-17-2018 08:32 PM                     Don't know the exact reason why the projector engine is wrong here - but when the GDC renders subs, it necessarily knows exactly the image dimension, a scope DCP will render to 2048/858 or 4096/1716. The subtitle engine then places the text according to the rules I explained above and renders it into the individual frames. The projector PCF is then irrelevant for the sub position reference, as the text has been burnt into the image. Only excessive vertical cropping can then cut off the bottom part of the image and text rendering. - Carsten  |  IP: Logged

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