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Jesper Meng
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From: Skoerping, Denmark, Denmark
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 - posted 11-04-2019 02:07 PM      Profile for Jesper Meng   Author's Homepage   Email Jesper Meng   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Did you succeed? I have a similar setup, and for now i can pull dcp's from Ims2000 to ICMP and the other way. I can FTP to IMS but not to ICMP. Very anoying.

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Carsten Kurz
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From the FTP section of the Commander manual:

'Upload files on the server is not allowed. The only way to transfer contents on your ICMP is to ingest it.'

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Stephan Shelley
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 - posted 11-06-2019 05:22 PM      Profile for Stephan Shelley   Email Stephan Shelley   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
While you may not be able to send or push content to the ICMP you can pull content via FTP from other servers and such. You set it up as an ingest source. I have done this with a cineconductor and a Dolby dss server. Hint on the DSS server if you are using older software make the directory you start looking for content in the generated packages directory and it works fine.

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Steve Guttag
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To me...they should allow both push and pulls. I can't tell you how many times I've expedited content transfers or KDMs but merely pushing that content to the server. It is another strike against the ICMP as too restrictive or unnecessarily cumbersome (they still need to lose the requirement that it will only play a DCP if a DCP format is selected on the projector (or the special black pattern).

I year or two back Disney played with having an Olaf short on the head of a feature. I kept the CPL at the ready for the multitude of people that it confused. On a Dolby DSS server...just drop in the CPL and all was good. Not every site (particularly singles) have a TMS so a PC might be the source of the content and most PCs are not set up as FTP servers to allow the ICMP to pull the content.

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Carsten Kurz
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I'm wondering how they deal with content transfers to the ICMP in an actual TMS environment - I guess with other servers, the TMS can FTP/push content and KDMs to it. With the ICMP, will the TMS have to tell the ICMP where the content is and that it should ingest it by itself? Or is there a 'hidden' push feature not accessible to the mean user?

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Steve Guttag
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The TMS systems I've worked with have done pulls and everything is done with some sort of web protocols so there is likely complicated means to perform the push/pulls. Once the commands are known and what the server can do, it is a matter of creating the scenario for the automation of it.

Since every TMS company would like you to use theirs, they have a motivation to overcome obstacles that companies put in their path in order to be the most compatible.

FWIW...the Dolby TMS (formerly Doremi TMS) supports the ICMP as the only non Doremi/Dolby servers so it couldn't be too insurmountable. Dolby and Doremi were/are the more flexible servers for how content can be pushed or pulled (where I think the DSS server really wins on being able to drag-n-drop content or kdms right to their FTP folder.

I believe every major TMS system has the IMCP in their list of compatible servers. It wasn't always easy as I recall release notes from several where they were very ICMP specific in overcoming issues...that may just be because they are the new commers. I expect similar things for the CMS5000 (QSC) as it hits the streets.

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