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Magnus Eriksson
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 - posted 11-22-2018 11:49 AM      Profile for Magnus Eriksson   Email Magnus Eriksson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The same over here [bs]
/M.E.

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Adam Martin
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Here in the US, Universal has been sending out all their trailers in 7.1.

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Carsten Kurz
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You mean, 7.1 ONLY?

- Carsten

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Adam Martin
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Yes, trailers in 7.1 only. Although, in looking at my notes of recent releases, I should say "If the feature will be 7.1, the trailers are 7.1-only. If the feature will be 5.1-only, trailers are 5.1."

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Monte L Fullmer
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You can play 7.1 in a 5.1 setup.

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Adam Martin
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Not the point.

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Carsten Kurz
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I don't know any server or CP that allows 7.1 to be played 'properly' in a 5.1 environment. Some dedicated QSYS setups certainly will allow to create a suitable downmix, but the general CP doesn't.

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Steve Guttag
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You could also get a JSD-60 to do the downmix (it has that nifty matrix for setting what signal AND what level comes out of what output).

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Carsten Kurz
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Adam - I assume ignorance on the part of Amazon and the like, but, for Universal, could this simply be a site/screen database issue? E.g. if you have a single 7.1 screen registered, would they simply skip supplying a 5.1 version even if there is one available?

How do you receive these trailers from Universal?

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Mark Strube
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We receive the generic TrailMix hard drives, and I've definitely seen a number of trailers on those available only in 7.1. So, I don't think it's a site registration issue. I would argue a bit of a "who cares" in the case of trailers since they tend to overuse surround and LFE anyways... but not good in the case of features.

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Harold Hallikainen
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I heard at a recent ISDCF meeting that some trailers are indeed only being delivered 7.1.

Harold

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Carsten Kurz
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Someone should tell them that the typical cinema audio processor will NOT downmix to 5.1.

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Carsten Kurz
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First time we now see 7.1 trailers here in germany, but always in addition to 5.1 versions. Yes, there had been some special 7.1 trailers occasionally for high profile releases like SW7 and the like. I think mostly these are generated from ATMOS 5.1/7.1 mixdowns in a more or less automated way without much special attention.

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Steve Guttag
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DCI compliance rules state that 5.1 shall be the minimum requirements. It is not the cinemas at fault for not having 7.1 capability, it is those that only author in 7.1. If they want to mix in 7.1, that is fine but the distributor should be compelled to always have a 5.1 version of the mix, including trailers. Furthermore, this applies to all you 2.0 people out there. 2.0 is NOT a supported format in cinema, before authoring, run your "mix" through a 2:4 decoder so that if you really just have 2-channel mono, it comes out of Center only.

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