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Muhamad Taufiq
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Two IMAX digital (with 1.9:1 screen) I have visited all have very good sightlines. Maybe even more than necessary. So that the back row is about 3/4 way up the screen.

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Steve Kraus
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I just saw 2001 in Laser LIEMAX at Navy Pier Chicago.

The verdict: It's not 5-65/70 and a far cry from 15-65/70 but it's not bad. Did not see any pixels. Did see film grain and could spot areas where the O-Neg had been replaced with a dupe due to damage.

I believe there was at least one 1.43 element in the pre-show which means the anamorphic stays in place.

Screen is new (they publicized the work to change it) yet still gray, metallic looking. Jury is still out whether this was a silver screen (not needed for 6P color based 3D) or a gray screen for added contrast. NO hotspot visible.

I presume the intermission is built-in and rolling. Clueless theatre did not program a light cue so the 6 or so in attendance just sat there in the dark for 10-15 minutes or whatever it was.

"In Cinerama" remains in this version. (Could and maybe should have slugged in an IMAX logo there. As much as I like seeing the Cinerama logo, unless you are showing it on a deeply curved screen it is inappropriate.)

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Carsten Kurz
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I believe they can roll in/out the anamorphic within a playlist, but the image needs to be blanked. Some people assumed they could switch between 'normal' and 1.43 seamlessly, but as far as I have been told, that is not possible. A laser imax feature with 'some' 1.43 elements needs to be vertically squeezed in all the other sequences as well. Of course they can play other aspect ratios without the anamorphic during preshow.

- Carsten

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Steve Kraus
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I would hope they could take it out since even a traditional formerly real IMAX is going to spend most of its time playing 2.39 (and occasional 1.85) Hollywood movies so kinda dumb to waste pixels that could contribute to sharpness (not to mention brightness).

On the original twin 2K LIEMAX you could see polarizers rolling in and out of the picture as needed so no reason they could not do that with the anamorphic. So maybe they did that and if laser can do a better black level when blanked it might not be noticed.

If my calculations are correct the anamorphic ought to be about 1.33 : 1 squeeze (unsqueeze) ratio.

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Edward Havens
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quote: Bobby Henderson
Every Cinemark XD theater has Auro 11.1
Not every. Some do have full Dolby Atmos systems.

quote: Bobby Henderson
and some variation of THX
Nope. All have real THX certification.

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Bobby Henderson
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THX certification all but died off in commercial theaters over this past decade. Even Warren Theaters, which used to apply THX to all of its screens (except for IMAX), dropped it. And then the chain was gobbled up by Regal.

Meanwhile Cinemark added a lot of these "XD" screens over the past several years. Very few, if any, of them were originally built with THX in mind. Cinemark sure wasn't advertising it at all. But now over 100+ XD theaters are all THX certified?

I can't help but be suspicious some features of the original commercial THX theater design were bypassed to get the THX logo associated with all of those XD screens. Certain features, such as wall construction and treatment, have to be built into the auditorium when the theater is under construction. It's not something that can be easily/quickly added to an already operating theater screen. Commercial theater chains aren't going to spend extra money beefing up a room's ability to contain sound and provide much better than usual acoustics unless they have to do so. Same goes for installing HVAC systems whose noise is operating at a lower than usual level. The big sound baffle wall behind the screen that is practically a trademark for THX theaters isn't cheap either. Very few non-THX theaters install anything like that. Executives figure if it's something the customer can't see then it's not worth spending extra money on it.

If Cinemark actually did incorporate THX into their XD theaters in legit fashion then kudos to them for doing so. But if it's really some watered down approach then it's yet another thing speeding THX to its final demise.

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William Kucharski
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Colorado Boulevard won’t show 15/70 again for a variety of reasons.

The film projectors were taken out after Interstellar, and it was a management decision that they would never show 15/70 again - probably because they destroyed a print of Interstellar due to a projection error and were charged for it.

At least that’s what I was told when I had a talk with the district manager after they decided to only show Dunkirk in digital.

Thankfully Regal continues to operate one 5/70 down the street at the Regal Continental, IMHO a much better presentation than the 5/70 theater at the AMC Westminster 24.

I’d make a snide comment about AMC here, but their 15/70 presentation of Dunkirk at the Metreon in SF was mind blowing, everything 15/70 IMAX should be.

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