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Steve Kraus
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 - posted 11-20-2018 04:07 PM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
NEC-Brandi says her documentation says a hexagonal wrench with "width across flats 5mm." I don't doubt the screw itself could be 5mm but no way regarding the opening and the tool for it. I'm not going to pull the bulb just to screw around with it (yes,a pun) but I'll try to remember to have some 5mm set screws to test next time. Ones with some sort of standard opening.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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You would need to measure it with a thread micrometer to be absolutely sure. Or take the brass adapter to Bolt & Nut Supply in Salt lake City and get your self a box of 100 spare set screws for a few bucks.

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Steve Kraus
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 - posted 11-21-2018 07:32 AM      Profile for Steve Kraus     Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Does no one else around here use the adapter?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I did use a couple adapters initially with those LTI short gap lamps, but that was short lived because Digital Lamps started coming on the market within a few months of those projectors hitting the theaters, plus the LTI lamps were awful. Most of those brass adapters are laying in a box some place in those booths. I didn't toss them or the extra apertures.

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Dave Macaulay
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Since it's Japanese it will/should have metric fasteners. Maybe that part was made in the USA in a panic when "digital" lamps were unavailable?
Possibly someone ham-handed it and ruined the hex hole?
There is no metric Allen key between 2mm and 2.5mm.
Brandi is pretty good but doesn't know every part and fastener. There are 5mm cap screws in the projector, those use a 5mm key. Nice that metric cap screw keys are the same size as the thread.

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Steve Kraus
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She specifically said measured across the flats so there's no ambiguity about the overall screw size versus the tool.

She followed up with "that tool size should be 5/64." At first I thought 'great...mystery solved." Then I did a little calculating:

5/64" is 0.078125". Multiply by 25.4 and you get 1.984375mm. So a touch under 2mm? 2mm was already too small. The beat goes on.

3/32" / 2.38125mm is too large (and was the basis of my self-ground tool).

I do believe there is a 2.25mm wrench. That might do it or be close enough to work as is.

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Gordon McLeod
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There were 3 vintages of the brass adapter the latest that came with the machines are split design and screwless the first ones were SAE the later ones with a screw were a standard metric 2mm

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Steve Kraus
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My projector is from 2012 but which version of the adapter out of their basket got included could be random although obviously it is not the split design.

As I said, 2mm was too small. 2.5mm too big. And no SAE worked other than by angular pressure. As my handmade tool was ground down from 2.38mm (SAE 3/32") my current guess for a quasi standard size is 2.25mm. I hope I have no need for any tool for a few years.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Seems like the ones I used worked with a standard metric allen key. But that was back in mid 2010 when these first came out.

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Steve Kraus
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It will frustrate me now because the mystery will remain unsolved but it would be completely illogical to disturb the bulb just to try other tools! [uhoh]

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Just locate a theater equipped with NEC's and you will find a whole box of those adapters in the booth. Any Marcus Theater has NEC...

Markus Filmiticus

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