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Marcel Birgelen
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 - posted 12-31-2018 02:21 AM      Profile for Marcel Birgelen   Email Marcel Birgelen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
My opinion might, again, be a little bit different...

I think it's fine that factory default service accounts are changeable, but there should be documented reset procedures for those passwords.

In my opinion, once you have physical access to the equipment, you already have the proverbial super-power to screw things up.

I think this should not only be true for DCI equipment, but for practically all "IT equipment", maybe with the sole exception for devices that really store sensitive data and your average DCI setup stores none of such data.

I've been in too many situations, where the previous guy who ran the technical show left and nobody knows anything about "passwords" or "access credentials". Restoring access to all the gizmos in a modern production environment can be quite a challenge, including lots of wasted hours on trying to password reset thingy X or gadget Y.

For starters, try to get any Android device running that was registered to an unknown Google account, but somebody decided to factory reset...

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Dave Macaulay
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Linux is fairly secure. If someone changes the root password, you are not going to easily recover control of the system. For Doremi where the root password is relatively public, that means replacing the flash drive. Barco does not give away their root passwords and they should be able to recover a projector with the admin password changed but I have never askex for that.
The Christie TPC runs on Windows, much easier to crack.

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Scott Norwood
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Actually, it should be fairly easy to re-set the root password on a Doremi if it can boot from an external device (or the internal CD drive). It should be a five-minute (more-or-less) process.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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You would need to see whats in your contract. It may well just say leave the booth in the condition you found it, or it may say train the next guy taking the position. Of course once you leave I'd block their number so they can't call you with questions. If you are Barco trained and the new guy is not then don't hand out any passwords! Let them send him to Barco school.

Mark

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Steve Guttag
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With Barco, oddly enough, passwords are tied to the software program on YOUR computer, not the projector so if you have physical connection and you have a service level password, you can get into any projector.

The only time one needs a root password is to clear out a service user from one of their touchpanels. The root password is a temporary item to allow this and does not require Barco involvement, if you know what you are doing and are trained in the procedure.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Irregardless of that he still needs to know exactly whats in his contract and not provide any more or any less than what it says.

Mark

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Carsten Kurz
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Most support contracts do not contains such details, because those who work out the contracts do not know anything about work details.

- Carsten

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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quote: Carsten Kurz
Most support contracts do not contains such details, because those who work out the contracts do not know anything about work details.

Yes, fortunately, sometimes. The incoming director obviously hasn't a clue either.

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Rick Raskin
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quote: Steve Guttag
At the very least, there should be a means to reset them to factory defaults by the right entities (even if that is the manufacturer because, again, they would only have access if the company gave it to them).
Agree -- In my TELCO experience that was often by means of a serial port on the affected hardware. We did often set them up so we could telnet in remotely.

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