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Mark Gulbrandsen
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WTH! If you are paying per download why would they refuse you? Doesn't make sense to me.

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Mike Spaeth
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...because the theatre doesn't bear the entire cost of the download. Some of that is borne by the studio in lieu of what they would pay in a hard drive production fee. DCDC bears the cost of installation and maintenance of the system, and it's likely too difficult for a single-screen theatre to have enough bookings (or "turns") in order to provide a reasonable ROI on their install/maintenance costs.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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So then the theater may have to sign a contract that runs a few years longer, or pay a little more per download so DCDC recoups it monies. It just seems like they've dropped the ball again for smaller exhibiters.
BTW: I have a single screen in Utah that has DCDC!

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
It just seems like they've dropped the ball again for smaller exhibiters.
Yup. There are advantages to being on the bottom of the food chain but it gets really irritating not having the perks enjoyed by the big boys.

I did write back and ask what their "minimum" is.... if it's 100 movies or something like that, then we're screwed.... but if they're looking for, say, 40 films in a year, we should be able to hit that just by creative/careful booking. I just want to know what the freaking number is.

Or I'd be willing to pay for the equipment too, as long as there's a reasonable upgrade path.

If anybody knows anybody "higher up" in DCDC that I could contact to grease this up a bit, I'd be all ears.

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Marcel Birgelen
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Still no studios offering their DCPs as download via broadband in the U.S.? And nobody jumping on the bandwagon of doing so? In this day and age, it can't be much more expensive than timeslots on a satellite transponder...

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Mike.... It would appear that Darla, Maya, or Sharon should be able to answer your questions. I would start by making phone calls... And I'd start with Darla since she is VP Of Exhibitor Operations.

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Scott Norwood
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quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
It just seems like they've dropped the ball again for smaller exhibiters.
Isn't that sort of normal for this industry?

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Dennis Benjamin
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We are saving at least half our film delivery costs per year by switching to Satellite. They pay to install the system, we save half the money we were spending a year.

It was a no brainer for us.

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Carsten Kurz
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Over here, it is no problem to install the dish on your own using local companies. Maybe there is a way to negotiate dish installation and cabling.

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Rick Cohen
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Maybe if you offer to purchase the satellite dish, server, and installation on your own dime, they will service your location. DCDC is a business, so they will expect a return on their investment. If you are not generating enough delivery fees to meet their criteria, they look at you as a money losing proposition. Maybe if you can remove the burden of the initial investment from them, they will be more willing to add you to their delivery network.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Rick, Are any drive ins using the service?

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Mike.... It would appear that Darla, Maya, or Sharon should be able to answer your questions.
Maya is the one who shot down my original inquiry.

I did write back and ask what the mininum bookings was (no answer yet) and there is a DCDC theater in western Montana that will be closing next year when their lease is up, so maybe we can use that equipment here...that owner is going to check with DCDC about that when it gets closer.

I also did find out that it's possible to download a movie and save it if you expect to play it later, so in reality, they would get paid for all of our bookings in a given year, not just the 30 that played within the 4-week time frame.

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Barry Floyd
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quote: Mark Gulbrandsen
Rick, Are any drive ins using the service?
I'm not Rick, but I know of several drive-ins that have DCDC - mine included. We are a two screen drive-in, have no TMS, and DCDC works wonders for us.

They came out and did a physical on-site assessment, and once I got my part of the installation taken care of, they came back out installed the dish, the Kencast server and the rack it's all in. I ran the interior cabling to our content media network rack, and had the tech guys at American Cinema dial-in and configure the GDC servers to add the DCDC system as another ingest source. Pretty painless.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Barry, so I guess the ultimate question is... How many films a year do you book?

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Mike Blakesley
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Barry's got two screens though... Mark didn't you say you had a single screen customer in Utah? Is he part of a chain?

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