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Kenneth Wuepper
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The Sound of Music 2
Print #A2002- #2A2002 new 9/3/10
FOX Criterion Distribution
Play dates 12/18/2015 12/20/2015

Spindle hole damaged mountings

The print is complete with all frames and no detectable missing footage. Head and tail splices in tact.

Emulsion side of entire print has been dragged over something causing vertical line damage showing in the picture.

Reels 11 & 12 have continuous long green scratches throughout and other reels have intermittent green scratches.

Because of reels 11 & 12 the print is no longer show-able. This is platter damage since the leaders are not damaged.

Sound SR SRD DTS (no discs received)

The show was done with BD material as no replacement 35mm prints are available.

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System Notices
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It has been 378 days since the last post.


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Leo Enticknap
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Does anyone know if this DCP has the Todd-AO stage extra audio channels on 9 and 10?

We're playing it later in the month, and I'd like to get our system set up to play the five stage channel mix if it's on the DCP.

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Manny Knowles
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Our DCP was 5.1 (both times)
Dialogue is panned tho.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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didn't Fox 'Atmos' (yes I used that as a verb) "Oklahoma!" I'm surprised they didn't do it for this, to have the music spread across the screen to duplicate five stage channel sound. Actually the bluray places the voices in between the left/center, center/right speakers to recreate that effect

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Steve Guttag
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I've yet to, personally, observe any of the 70mm features get a proper "ToddAO" transfer on the sound (5-screen with mono surrounds). Yes, the mono surround would use channels 5/6 as normal with redundant information on both to create the mono surround. What was done to "Oklahoma!" was criminal. Not only was the original, Academy Award winning mix omitted, they offered a stupid "7.1" version that merely turned off the rear surrounds and played a "stereo surround" out of Ls/Rs. So the 5.1 mix was more faithful to the original. Yes, you had to get "Atmos" to get the 5-channel mix.

I'm somewhat familiar with The Sound of Music audio and there is substantial use of LC and RC. All 3-shots have people right on those channels. I don't know what Hollywood's aversion to always issuing the original mix as well as the 5.1 version. Yes, you HAVE to provide a 5.1 version to ensure that all cinemas can play a title. That was part of the DCI spec. But as a Version File, ALWAYS provide the original mix. Cinemas, like the Egyptian will want to present a title in as close to the original release format as available and they are not alone. There ARE a significant number of cinemas around the world that can play 5-screen channels that cannot play Atmos. It is just plain STUPID to make Atmos a requirement to play a classic format. Furthermore, people seeking out an original version will not want a modern-day person's interpretation of a yesteryear mix.

Honestly, get with the 70mm bandwagon and just release the title in 70mm!

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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The aversion is that Hollywood thinks no one still had 5 channels behind the screen. They also "think" all prints made must have noise reduction. But as you know both are false.

Mark

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Paul Linfesty
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Wasn't THE SOUND OF MUSIC was mixed with three stage channels only, and was tricked up to 5 stage channels in the sounding of the print process?

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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The dialog is panned during re-recording. I have actually been in that mix theater at Todd-AO... it just had regular Altec A-4's with subs in it at the time I was there, but they were somewhat souped up. Incredible sound and dynamic range.

Mark

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