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Bobby Henderson
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The thing about the word "gaijin" is it doesn't seem so bad on the surface like the racial slurs commonly heard in America. But if you understand Japanese culture, "the group" is everything. Loosely translated, gaijin means outsider --or someone not on the team and not exactly welcome to join either. The term is applied to people seen as having no value or honor.

In Japan, there is a great deal of pressure to not just be accepted as part of the team, but you have to work hard to better the team (and your standing aboard it). Japan has struggled with a high suicide rate from pressures to excel academically and in business. Individuality is frowned upon in Japanese culture. If you are going to make waves, you have to do it through the many layers of the system.

Some of it kind of reminds me of the "good ol' boys network" we have screwing up business in America, except it just seems to work on a more sophisticated and subtle level. And things can crash. The current good old boys network scandals with Enron, Worldcom and others remind me of the Japanese banking scandals of years before.

Anyway, I got off on a tangent. Essentially, anyone can be bigoted scumbag targeting others based on skin color, gender, religion, nationality, speaking accent, etc., etc., etc.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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As a third generation Japanese American, I know for a fact that the word GAIJIN is not a racist word but means FOREIGNER. Just before I sat down in front of my computer to write this post, I asked my 83 year old Japanese speaking mother if Gaijin was a derogatory word applied to a foreigner and she said no. I do however agree that some Japanese can put themselves above other people and consider themselves vastly superior and this is definitely racist behavior. On the other hand, the Japanese can be very polite and if you are a guest they will go out of their way to treat you like a king or a queen. I was once a guest of the Professional Photographers of Japan when they invited me to lecture in three major cities by paying me a very generous fee and all of my expenses. On top of all of this, they showered me with lavish gifts and made sure that I stayed at their finest hotels, dined at their best restaurants and entertained me at their best cabarets and theatres. Beleive me when I tell you how difficult it was to adapt to a normal life after I left Japan.

-Claude


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John Pytlak
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My Japanese colleagues (including many from Fuji) were very gracious hosts when I spent a memorable two weeks in Japan participating in the ISO/TC36 film standards conference and conducting training seminars in 1991. Likewise, I have had the privilege of hosting many Japanese customers when they visit Kodak in Rochester.

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David Stambaugh
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09/02/2002, Cinemark 17, Springfield OR, 4:55PM, #13, Dolby SR. OK presentation. Image was kind of jumpy vertically. Attendance about 250.

I finally had to check this out to see for myself what all the "buzz" is about. Some observations... This was a near-sellout crowd, despite the fact that MBFGW has been showing in Eugene now almost since it first came out (May?) (it started at the Bijou art house, then Cinemark picked it up a couple weeks ago). The majority of the audience seemed to be made up of middle-age or older people who rarely go to movies. The crowd REALLY enjoyed this -- the laughter was almost non-stop and sometimes you couldn't hear the next line or 2 of dialog over the laughing. The word-of-mouth on this movie has to be incredibly strong, and it seems to be drawing a crowd that probably doesn't much appreciate most of the more "contemporary" comedies aimed at younger audiences. In other words, the film targets an audience that's probably starved for product like this.

I enjoyed it. It's a nice little film with no special effects, no big name stars, minimal budget, yet it works because you like & identify with the characters. Very simple. I imagine all the big studios are trying to figure out how to replicate this now, and we'll see a bunch of MBFGW knockoffs over the next year, and most of them won't have the heart or "magic" or whatever this movie has. Sometimes good shit just happens and there's no recipe you can use to duplicate it over and over. Congratulations to the makers of this movie on its success and to the theaters who've had good runs with it.


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John Pytlak
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I enjoyed "MBFGW" at ShoWest with Ian Price and Ky Boyd, and I agree that a good story, well told, can be a real winner. Ian and Ky were sure they wanted to play it then and there, and it's been a real success story for them and hundreds of other theatres.

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David Koegel
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I just watched this movie in -- of all places -- an airplane, so I won't even try to get into presentation quality. (I'm not even sure that American West's sound distribution system via headset is in stereo.) But in watching this movie, with the accents all over the place, I could have just as easily thought that most of the movie was dealing with an Italian family ... at least a Sicilian one.

My mom's full-blooded Sicilian, and I remember from my childhood the holiday gatherings being a lot like those seen in the movie. Even today, when an "outsider" joins in during a holiday meal, it can be quite overwhelming for them. To them, we are all shouting at each other. What they don't know is that he who shouts the loudest not only gets heard but is the "winner" of the discussion -- at least at that point in time. To an outsider, everyone comes across as rather rude, interrupting each other. To us, we are just having a normal conversation. While loud, it's not an indication of anger at all.

And if you wait for a pause in the conversation to get in your two-cent's worth, you'll be waiting for a very long time.

As for the movie, I loved it ... as did my mom

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Josh Jones
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We've had this film for 3 weeks now, it played the plex and bombed. We picked it up, and business keeps getting better every night. Our biggest show last week was 272!! We can actually afford to fix things again

Josh

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David Stambaugh
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One of the coolest things that happens in this business sometimes is when the public decides on its own that a film is good and word of mouth takes over and it turns into a big success, without a bunch of advertising or marketing. Just the opposite of what often happens: We're told by marketing hacks and phony critics on opening weekend that a film is good, then we spend our $$ and find out otherwise... I'm doing contract work for a game developer right now, and MBFGW has been the topic of much discussion amongst us. Not because it would make a good video game, but because it's an entertainment that's caught on with the public and is raking in a lot of money. What every game developer dreams will happen with their next release...



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Claude S. Ayakawa
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"MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING" is being compared to another independent film "THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT" for the huge amount of money it had made despite it's very small production cost. As far as I am concerned. THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT" was just a big pile of and it only made a lot of money because of the fantastic way it was sold to the public with sleek full page ads and favorable reviews by many critics who did not have nice things to say about "--GREEK WEDDING". "THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT---" made it's money very quickly with a wide release playing in thousands of theatres at the same time but lost it's audience as soon as people learned what a piece of it was. "---GREEK WEDDING" opened in only one theatre in Honolulu about two months ago and it is now in seven theatres including the Ward 16 which only opened the picture today. In my opinion, I felt cheated after seeing "THEBLAIR WITCH PROJECT" and was very disgusted how I was manipulated by the sleek ads and favorable reviews. I only saw "--GREEK WEDDING" because of the good things my friends were saying anout it after they saw the movie, After viewing the film, I too have been urging others to see it. "MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING" might be on it's way to make box office history as being the first picture to become the top money making picture of the week by starting backward at #20 and moving up to 2nd place this week and possibly first place by next week.


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Joe Redifer
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This movie continues to kick ass and grow each week in attendance. Maybe it has something to do with the new MBFGW videogame recently released by Konami which puts the player in an old castle with a whip. Or perhaps its the new Burger King tie-in. Or the new slick web site that you can only view if you have Flash 5 installed. Maybe it is the constant advertising on TV with lots of great quotes from the critics. Could be the soundtrack with tunes "inspired by" the major motion picture. It could possibly be the new action figures recently released as well.

What? The movie is this successful because of "word of mouth"? Nooooo..... you can't sell a movie on that.


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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Joe,

I am very sorry to differ with you but the majority of people who saw the movie with me about a month ago were at least in ther forties and older and way beyond the age of video games and Burger King tie ins. A lot of people in this age group are also not into surfing the net so I doubt very many were influenced by fancy websites promoting this film. Yes, older people do watch a lot of TV and if they first heard about how good "MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING" is by a critic, this is another form of 'word of mouth' because unlike advertising, the critics were not paid to render a favorable opinion of the movie. The only way a video game and fast food restaurant promotion can influence a film's success is for the movie to go into wide distribution by a major studio. "MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING"is a independent film and none of the majors showed any interest in releasing it. If this was the attitude of the major studios, what makes you think any fast food restaurant and video game producer would be interested in this film? If there are video games and fast food promos that are now tied in with "MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING", it was only due to the success of the movie and not the other way around. The movie opened first in art houses and it was only due to the word of mouth from people who saw it first that had made me want to see this film. Yes, it was only due to people enjoying the film and spreading the good word that made "MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING" a success.

-Claude


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Joe Redifer
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Claude-

My entire post above was a Big Fat Joke Post. I was trying to take the attitude that most studios have when it comes to promoting movies.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Joe,

You got me!

I am wondering what all the studio heads are thinking when they realized they passed on a vey good thing with "MY BIG FAT GREEK WEDDING". At least Artisen Entertainment realized there was a lot of potential with "THE BLAIR WITCH PROJECT" after the film did well at the Sundance Film Festival and ran with it and made millions!

-Claude


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Charles Everett
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When I saw Greek Wedding at the AMC Hamilton it was a "second choice" picture for me. Now that this movie is a mainstream hit I decided to see it again as a "first choice".

Reading Cinemas in Manville NJ got Greek Wedding back on 8/23. It's been playing in one of the giant-size (350+ seat) halls for its current run. This Friday night Greek Wedding drew 250+ to the 8:15 PM show: women, older couples, a good number of high school girls. Fun show, fun night!

Yes, we Jersey people can relate to all the big-haired women. "Jersey Girls" were known for big hair all through the 80's. Not only that, Greek Wedding works as a kind of "female empowerment" movie.

Yes, we Jersey people can relate to Dancing Zorba's. Greeks own most if not all the diners along the Jersey highways.

It doesn't hurt that Reading is the only theater playing Greek Wedding within a 30-minute drive from Manville.

Claude: Greek Wedding was co-financed by HBO -- a division of AOL Time Warner. Also, Lions Gate once had the worldwide theatrical rights to Greek Wedding but gave them back because Lions Gate doesn't have the TV/video rights (HBO does).


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Mark Gulbrandsen
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Saw BFGW at the Larry Miller Gateway 12 Cinemas tonight in Salt Lake City. Absolutely amazing.....the house was almost full on this film that has been playing for 20 plus weeks now. The film was also still in great shape with only very minor wear, and picture and sound quality was excellent as well. All they need there is Film-Guard mounted on the projectors and the little bit of black snow that was there would not have been at all. All in all a 3 and a half star presentation, and the best presentation I've seen at a SLC theatre so far. Keep up the good work!!
Mark

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