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Adam Martin
I'm not even gonna point out the irony.

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From: Dallas, TX
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 07-05-2002 03:08 PM      Profile for Adam Martin   Author's Homepage   Email Adam Martin       Edit/Delete Post 
I musta missed the mole, too. Probably buried in all that grain!

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David Stambaugh
Film God

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From: Eugene, Oregon
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 - posted 07-05-2002 04:17 PM      Profile for David Stambaugh   Author's Homepage   Email David Stambaugh   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Remember the snot-nosed doctor who did the eye job on Anderton? His nurse assistant had a huge mole on her face.


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Greg Mueller
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Port Gamble, WA
Registered: Jun 99


 - posted 07-09-2002 08:24 PM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Spoilers

Flaw?????

Ok if it's premeditated you get a long warning if it's spur of the moment you only get a half hour. Right?

Since our hero didn't even know the guy he was supposed to kill it could not have been premeditated so they would not have gotten the "long warning". He only decided to blow the guy away once he figured out who it was.

Is this a story line flaw or did I miss something?

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Dave Williams
Wet nipple scene

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From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA
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 - posted 07-10-2002 03:51 AM      Profile for Dave Williams   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Williams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
You didn't miss anything. Well except the point. JUST KIDDING.

No really though...


*****SPOILER ALERT*****

The point was actually made at the end of the film that you can plot someone else to kill, and that is what the precogs see, the act of murder itself. Although the murder was not premedated, the plan for the murder was set up by von sydow's charachter for anderton to kill the guy. It was not ever said how exactly he was to get anderton to get there in the first place, but I imagine that there was a plan to lure him there as well. Remember, the precogs only see the violent emotional act of murder, and the immediate surrounding details. They do not see if someone else put them up to it or set them up for it. That is one of the main points of the story, is that you cannot ethically use predetermination as a way of dishing out punishment, as you do not take into account mitigating circumstanses, or the fact that you may have the opportunity to make a different choice.

Notice that the premurderers are held in that prison, because they were going to commit the murders. But what about the ball? It was going to fall, right? I didn't see them take that ball and punish it by smashing it or throwing it hard. It was caught, safely. Shouldn't they have done that instead? Put the premurderers in therapy??? All they needed was just a little cuddle.

And did anyone notice the guy playing the fake child killer was none other than comedian and star of the movie "The Sex Monster" and the HBO series "The Mind of the Married Man".... Mr. Mike Binder. Very funny guy.

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Greg Mueller
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 - posted 07-10-2002 09:27 AM      Profile for Greg Mueller   Author's Homepage   Email Greg Mueller   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Ok, but shouldn't it thrown up a red flag for Tom's character. Shouldn't that fact have immediately put him on alert that something was monkeyed with, instead of waiting the whole movie? You'd think he'd be moe on top of how his own system works.

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Dave Williams
Wet nipple scene

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 - posted 07-10-2002 11:59 AM      Profile for Dave Williams   Author's Homepage   Email Dave Williams   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Tom's charachter was not concerned with petty details, as was known by his boss, due to the fact that he was still so wrought with emotional pain from the loss of his son, and that he never knew what happened to him. His boss picked him specifically because he would not be concerned with details, only with law and order.

It never occurred to Tom that there could be other possibilities, because he was showed only what his boss wanted him to see. He was shown that it worked perfectly, so in his guilt ridden mind, he needed to know nothing else. It is my suspicion that all of the other members of the team were more than likely just faithful followers and order takers, without having the cognitive resources to be leaders, just really good soldiers. The scene where he discovers he is guilty is a case in point, as his subordinate happily leaves the room on request, without question, and the tech in the tank gives him two minutes to run.

I must see this movie again, there are still so many points that even confuse me, just not sure where they are.

Dave

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Steve Guttag
We forgot the crackers Gromit!!!

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From: Annapolis, MD
Registered: Dec 1999


 - posted 01-01-2003 12:48 PM      Profile for Steve Guttag   Email Steve Guttag   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Well I finally got around to seeing this one....

I'll give it 3.5 out of 4.

First off, Steven Spielberg made a film with a 2.39:1 aspect ratio...rather different right there.

It was an artistic film and that will put off a few (as I have read in a couple of the reviews here).

The story was interesting and is one I could suspend my disbelief with although it did point out a flaw in our justice system. Here they have the Pre-Cogs able to predict future crimes and able to prevent them by merely telling someone that they are going to fly off in a fit of rage and kill. But since the government can't get an arrest out of the system, they scrap it rather than prevent murder...which should have been the goal in the first place.

Anyway...I liked it...good cinematography and good sound. Nice job.

Steve

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William Leland III
Master Film Handler

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From: Charleston, SC,
Registered: Aug 2002


 - posted 01-01-2003 07:27 PM      Profile for William Leland III   Author's Homepage   Email William Leland III   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
If you enjoyed the movie try the book. Philip K. Dick is a great sci-fi writer. I've read many of his short stories. He has a way of writing and not making much sense until the end. Pick up The Reader and The World Jones Made .

The World Jones Made is awesome. It's about a guy who can see the future one year to date. That means he is able to see his death one year before it happened and watching himself rot in the coffin until he dies. [Eek!]

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