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John Westlund
Expert Film Handler

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From: Burney, CA, USA
Registered: Jun 2001


 - posted 08-20-2002 04:56 PM      Profile for John Westlund   Email John Westlund   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Thats the song!!! Thanks

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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

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From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001


 - posted 09-02-2002 11:37 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I finally saw this film at Mann's --oop, I mean Colorado Cinemas' Chinese Theater multiplex a few days ago in Aurora, CO. I was hanging out with fellow Film-Tech-er Joe Redifer and we were having a difficult time trying to pick a decent to film to watch in his former place of employment (nope, we didn't buy any concessions). It was too long a wait to see "Road to Perdition", so "Goldmember" it was.

The movie was shown in one of the smaller theaters with kinda-sorta stadium seating. Audio was DTS. The film sounded okay, but the DTS piano trailer on the front sounded really harsh. The bass level in this theater is turned up, but in a loose and boomy way --not in the tight and punchy way good LFE should sound. Joe said he thought he heard some bass leakage coming in from another auditorium. That might have been the case. However, a tornado touched down not too far away there in Aurora that day and I am kind of wondering if that wasn't what Joe really heard.

The opening sequence with all the A-list star cameos was a hoot. But much of the humor would come and go in hit and miss fashion. Some of my friends hated this film, but I actually liked it more than I had expected. I laughed the most at the subtitles parody. While a lot of people scoff at "bathroom humor", I like a good fart joke when it is delivered well. And "Goldmember" had a few jokes along that line. Some were funny and others were not. Still, the first Austin Powers movie had the best bathroom humor scene with Tom Arnold coaching Austin, "yeah you tell that turd who's the boss."

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Joe Redifer
You need a beating today

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From: Denver, Colorado
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 - posted 09-03-2002 02:54 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I thought the subtitle jokes were hilarious. Since I show a lot of movies nowadays that are not made in English, white subtitles are burned into the bottom of the frame. Often the subtitles will be over a white background scene and you can only make out a few words or letters. This is EXACTLY the way Mike Meyers made fun of them here, to great effect. I don't think I would have appreciated that as much had I not been an exibitor of movies featuring subtitles.

There were other funny things about the movie, and there were lots of failed attempts at funny that just didn't make any sense. I've seen all 3 movies and the initial conversation between Dr. Evil and his son wasn't funny at all. And I felt Fat Bastard was forced. He was in there just to be in there. But I did like his bit at the end after he went on the "Subway diet like Jared".

As for the audio the subwoofer's levels were way improperly set and the bass on the stage channels and probably even the DTS unit seemed turned up to the max as well. I have never heard a DTS trailer sound (or look) so bad. The trailer was scratched all to hell and shows that they are having problems upstairs. The print was a bit dirty, splices jumped, and reel 4 was scratched. But the DTS never ever cut out.


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John Pytlak
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FWIW, laser-etched subtitles are usually quite readable, even over light areas of the scene. The high-powered laser completely removes the emulsion of the print, so the titles are "whiter than white", and the ridge of burned emulsion next to the letters gives them a "drop shadow" effect. Only problems are the slight focus shift between the image (in the emulsion layers) and the titles (no emulsion), and a charred effect in the letters if the power was set incorrectly.

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Peter Berrett
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From: Victoria, Australia
Registered: Nov 2000


 - posted 09-12-2002 07:30 AM      Profile for Peter Berrett   Author's Homepage   Email Peter Berrett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 

Hi all

I haven't seen Goldmember yet but I have some pertinent comments. First, several contributors mused over how long the Austin Powers franchise can continue. The answer is indefinently if the James Bond films are a guide. For the last thirty odd years the franchisors have been making the same film over and over again and so far nobody has noticed!

AS far as subtitles go our Multicultural broadcaster in Australia (SBS-TV) has an interesting subtitles policy namely:

From http://www.sbs.com.au/sbscorporate/index.html?id=388

quote:
Why do you use different types of subtitles on SBS?
SBS adopted its distinctive colour, font and size of subtitles after extensive research. With colour material - films and documentaries - it was found that yellow letters with thin black borders provide the maximum degree of contrast. For black and white material we use white subtitles. As a rule, SBS prefers to subtitle all material to our standard, and frequently we reject overseas subtitled material and re-subtitle them. Exceptions to this practice occur when no unsubtitled print of a key program exists; where suitably qualified subtitlers for some minor languages or dialects can’t be found; and where the material’s topicality and expeditious broadcast leaves no time for our own subtitled version.

Yellow subtitles might sound a bit garish but they are very readable. The quality of subtitling is very high at SBS. SBS are to be commended for showing their films letterboxed as well.

cheers Peter



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Peter Berrett
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From: Victoria, Australia
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 - posted 09-20-2002 09:03 AM      Profile for Peter Berrett   Author's Homepage   Email Peter Berrett   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 

Attendance: Lunar Drive-in Dandenong Friday 20th September 2002.

Some things in this film worked and some didn't. I felt the rehashed stuff from previous films often didn't come off but things that worked really well included the opening scene, the cameos, the subtitle gags, the japanese angle, the sharks in the pool (classic bond stuff) and the submarine.

Overall I enjoyed it but it is a mixture of good and bad.

Rating 7/10

On a separate note tonight was my first visit to the newly inaugurated Dandenong Drive-in. Although it is still half finished the film presentation on the single available screen was FDR, the staff very friendly and the food quite good.

The only slight hiccup during the night was the car placement. The lack of poles to space the cars meant that staff had to direct people where to park. This was a bit inefficient and confusing at times. I'm sure that will get fixed eventually though.

Overall a good night out at quite a nice cosy little drive-in. As it will save me an hour in travel time over both Dromana and Coburg I think I shall be visiting there in the future. Congratulations to the operators for getting the show up and running. Goldmember was a good first film to see there.

cheers Peter



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Brad Haven
Master Film Handler

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From: fremantle, West Australia
Registered: Aug 2001


 - posted 09-23-2002 10:43 AM      Profile for Brad Haven   Email Brad Haven   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The second austin powers film wasn't very good in my opinion so i wasn't expecting much of the third, but i was pleasantly surprized by this film, i was actually laughing out loud at most of the jokes.
The one thing i felt didn't work was the character Goldmember, he seemed very lifeless and unmemorable.
I now look foward to the next installment.

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Arthur Allen
Film Handler

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From: Renton, WA, USA
Registered: Aug 2001


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Pretty good, considering I had no expectations for it. The subtitle sequence was telegraphed too much, as if they didn't expect enough people to get it. I could see the Mr. Roboto joke coming a mile away too. Interesting how Scott looks like Ron Howard when he starts to go bald. It reminded me that Clint Howard could be coming up in the movie, and sure enough he did.

Does anyone remember the Osbournes sequence during the credits? The drive-in projectionist (who shall remain nameless) talked over that sequence so I couldn't hear it. Also he may have cut off the ending too soon after the text credits but before one more gag.


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