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Author Topic: Matrix Revolutions Evans A Criswell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1579 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 11-07-2003 10:07 AM                        Attendance: 2003/11/06 19:20, Regal Madison Square 12, Huntsville, AL, Auditorium 8 (54' width), DTS, Scope (40' screen) I was not disappointed by the movie, as I feared I would be after reading some initial reviews. I liked this one at least as much as the second one. In this auditorium, the sound was great, although the action scenes got a bit loud for me at times. The sound seemed very "solid" and clear. The floor shook under my feet at times. The image was projected perfectly with no quality deductions. If CAP coding was present, I didn't notice it in this particular movie. I guess my main problem was with the whole "sentinels invading the deck" scene. There were dense swarms of those things coming in there. They could have destroyed that whole place very quickly. Maybe the sentinels are often like Star Wars Imperial stormtroopers -- they can't be effective most of the time. If one of those things can cut through a metal shell of a ship, then one could easily take out one person (or a lot of them). Here, we had thousands of them flying around with people out there fighting them. If those sentinels had any sense of organization, they could have instantly wiped out all the people fighting in there in just a few seconds. Of course, in any action (especially sci fi) movie, a small number of people must overcome unbelievably incredible odds to defeat their enemies. And they usually always do somehow. When Neo went to the machine city, I thought about Little Orphan Ani knocking out the control station for the fighter robots in Star Wars Episode I. I thought he was going to knock out the main source of power somehow for the machine city, but I'm not really sure what exactly happened. It seems setup for another movie, since no many things were left open and unanswered. Since so much money had been made with this popular series of movies, I can't imagine them not continuing it somehow.  |  IP: Logged Per Hauberg Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 883 From: Malling, Denmark Registered: Jul 2000 posted 11-07-2003 06:16 PM                        quote: Lately, every review I read from you Brad is negative Being semi-old in this business, I think that the frase "They don't make them like this anymore" has never been more true. It's difficult for me to remember, when I last have really wanted to get in there in my own theatre and watch a whole movie - just for entertainment. I am worried for the future... -And Brad's all right: The fact, that other film are even worse, do not automatically give the bad ones a better review. Per  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 11-08-2003 03:58 AM                        quote: "They don't make them like this anymore" What are you referring to, to Brad?  |  IP: Logged Jim Leko Film Handler Posts: 90 From: Redondo Beach, CA, USA Registered: May 2002 posted 11-08-2003 09:04 PM                     I enjoyed the movie until the last 5 minutes or so. I just didn't get what happened. The credits started rolling, and I was like "Oh, hell no, you can't end it like that." On a side note, didn't Trinity say (in the first movie), that the EMP was the only defense they had against the machines? Maybe she forgot about the 4 million rounds of ammo they had.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 11-08-2003 11:48 PM                        I didn`t understand why all their EMPs are on the ships. Shouldn`t they have mobile EMPs (like in "Ocean`s Eleven" ). When they build all the stuff they had, surely they could have had a couple more of these. The people we saw in the ending were all programs. So they were still in the Matrix, in a happy version. But didn`t Smith say the happy versions didn`t work? Anyway, even with the threat of the unleashed Smith, how could the machine master (with the floating face like "The Mummy" Imhotep in the sandstorm) agree to freeing everybody when this would have meant they would be out of power? quote: It seems setup for another movie, since no many things were left open and unanswered. Since so much money had been made with this popular series of movies, I can't imagine them not continuing it somehow. I agree. But I think - with all due respect to the creative effort that went into these movies - that they could probably have made a lot more money right now if they had made more interesting and captivating sequels. Aaron wrote: quote: I now understand what exactly Neo did and what happened to him. Please explain it to us.  |  IP: Logged Bobby Henderson "Ask me about Trajan." Posts: 10973 From: Lawton, OK, USA Registered: Apr 2001 posted 11-08-2003 11:57 PM                     I watched "Matrix Revolutions" this evening at the Carmike 8 in town. The movie didn't play as badly for me as some of the reviews I've seen. But still it didn't have the same "wow" effect as the original film. quote: I liked the movie for what it was. But comparing it to the others is like compairing apples to oranges.. Nothing is like the first or the second.. but all three are good for the individual movies that they are. I'm sorry, but I really disagree with this point of view very strongly. I can think of a number of movie sequels that did as well as their original and felt like they were a fitting addition to a saga instead of something that just cashed in on the original's coat tails. "The Godfather Part II," "The Empire Strikes Back," "Aliens," "Toy Story 2," "Terminator 2" or even some recent ones like "X2: X-Men United" all felt like they were fully justified in being made. A sequel should live up to the original film, if not surpass it in some way. I think all of the sequels I just mentioned did that. The two Matrix sequels (and many many other sequels of other films out there) feel like Hollywood just cashing in. The story of "Reloaded" and "Revolutions" is pretty thin, and the ending of "Revolutions" was indeed a let down. For one thing it just didn't make much sense in terms of the character arcs. You have one principal character inexplicably being killed off so the other can be free to assimilate with the machines in a blinding light. It really felt pretty clichéd. Sure, a lot of the CGI effects were pretty cool. But that is only icing on the cake. You have to have a couple layers of cake foundation for the thing to be a successful film. The Wachowski Brothers reportedly spent over 270 days filming the two sequels. I think a lot more work should have gone into the writing and developmental stages. For example, look at the tremendous work done by Pixar on all their films. Those guys really work out all the kinks in a story to make it work. They literally work for years honing in the screenplay before anything gets animated at all. They understand you have to feel something for the characters and they often succeed and entertaining an audience and making them laugh. On top of that you can tell the work done at Pixar is literally a labor of love on their part. The joy they feel for what they do shows in the quality of their work. Pixar puts in lots of extra effort instead of just going through the motions (which is exactly how the Matrix sequels felt). It's a shame the work ethic of Pixar cannot seem to be copied by lots of other film studios.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 11-09-2003 02:53 AM                        If you mention Pixar, please don`t forget to also mention Aardman. I think their work is among the greatest in animation.  |  IP: Logged Daniel Wright Expert Film Handler Posts: 163 From: Okmulgee, Ok , USA Registered: Oct 2003 posted 11-09-2003 10:18 AM                     It was nothing but philsophy followed by explosions and flying body parts followed by more new age drivel, more explosions and more new age drivel.  |  IP: Logged Dave Williams Wet nipple scene Posts: 1836 From: Salt Lake City, UT, USA Registered: Jan 2000 posted 11-09-2003 01:37 PM                        The fact that you are referring to new age as drivel, only points out that this movie was never meant for you. It was meant for drivelous people only. I liked this much better the second time around, even though the sdds mix was pure crap, and the aperture place was not the right one for this theater, and the image was aimed too high on the screen, and the automasking was set all the way to the side to expose.... oh who cares? the manager didn't. He just looked at me like I was insane! really it was that he had no clue what I was talking about. Stupid megaplex! Dave  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 11-09-2003 09:00 PM                        11/09/2003, 1:05PM, Regal Cinema World 8, Eugene OR, house #3, SR-D. Attendance around 75. No notable presentation flaws -- looked and sounded great. Who woulda thunk it -- A chain-operated multiplex with good presentation! I loved the pretty pictures and the great sound. I don't get the philosophical mumbo jumbo though. I don't have enough brainpower left at my advanced age to process this much thought-provoking material. But the visual and aural stimuli was enough to satisfy me.  |  IP: Logged Greg Mueller Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1687 From: Port Gamble, WA Registered: Jun 99 posted 11-09-2003 09:09 PM                        The wife and I just saw this and thought it was Taaa-rific. I like movies that leave me asking questions. It gives my brain something to work on. Excellent finish to the trilogy Hugo Weaving (agent Smith) deserves an oscar for his demonic character presentation, after he absorbs The Oracle  |  IP: Logged Jack Ondracek Film God Posts: 2348 From: Port Orchard, WA, USA Registered: Oct 2002 posted 11-09-2003 09:16 PM                        quote: and the image was aimed too high on the screen, and... I noticed that here, too. It seems to be another of those pictures that has everyone's heads crammed right up to the frame line. Trying to adjust for it didn't do much good.  |  IP: Logged Evans A Criswell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1579 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 11-09-2003 10:11 PM                        Speaking of the framing, was this movie composed for "opening up the top and bottom" in the super35 frame some for the IMAX version? Has anyone seen the IMAX version that can verify if the IMAX version is "opened up at the top and bottom" compared to the 35mm version, or is it cropped on the sides, or a mixture of the two from scene to scene? I noticed that like the previous Matrix movie, tops of heads were cropped in close-ups in many scenes.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 11-09-2003 10:31 PM                        Now that you mention it, I noticed the tight headroom too. Judging from the letterboxed trailer for "Return of the King" the booth had the framing spot-on.  |  IP: Logged Paul Linfesty Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1383 From: Bakersfield, CA, USA Registered: Nov 1999 posted 11-09-2003 11:09 PM                     [quote]Speaking of the framing, was this movie composed for "opening up the top and bottom" in the super35 frame some for the IMAX version? {/quote] I can only assume the IMAX version will be the same as the last MATRIX film. Hard matted for the full (or close to) AR of the 35mm presentation.  |  IP: Logged

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