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Author Topic: Troy Nicole Halper Film Handler Posts: 47 From: Plano, Texas, USA Registered: Mar 2004 posted 05-18-2004 07:06 PM                        Haha- no - but I just thought it was an interesting issue. It seems to be that if a movie is to be set in Europe in an ancient time period- the actor's usually have British accents. (That is of course unless it is German, French, Italian, Spanish- or any other more common dialects)  |  IP: Logged Aaron Garman Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1470 From: Toledo, OH USA Registered: Mar 2003 posted 05-19-2004 02:23 AM                     Jack Hawkins in Ben Hur didn't have a Roman or Latin accent, but his native accent. Charlton Heston also wasn't speaking any Aramaic. In these huge epics, you just have to take liberties like this. In the case of the Passion, the use of the orginal tounges worked, but it'd be hard to pull off in another film, especially one on the scale or Troy or even Ben Hur for that matter. It'd be interesting to see however. AJG  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 05-19-2004 03:57 AM                        I guess they do it that way so that it`s more like classic theater. How do people play stuff like Shakespeare in America? Do they try to euroize their native accent to make it sound more "like Shakespeare"?  |  IP: Logged Evans A Criswell Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1579 From: Huntsville, AL, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 05-19-2004 10:13 AM                        I saw this opening night at the Carmike 10 in Huntsville. I liked the movie. There was lots of good eye candy. I just wished they'd filmed it anamorphically. I loved the style of dress in the movie. About half an hour into the movie where Achilles and his cousin are practicing or whatever, I loved those long dress-like outfits they had on. I want one of those. The movie presentation itself was excellent. There was one trailer spliced one perf out of frame in the previews, but that was the only defect I saw.  |  IP: Logged Todd Cornwall Film Handler Posts: 91 From: Madison, WI Registered: Feb 2004 posted 05-19-2004 09:44 PM                     This movie was overacted and the fight scenes ESPECIALLY Brad Pitts, were WAY WAY over-choreographed. I expected more.  |  IP: Logged William Hooper Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1879 From: Mobile, AL USA Registered: Jun 99 posted 05-20-2004 02:54 AM                        quote: Michael Schaffer I guess they do it that way so that it`s more like classic theater. How do people play stuff like Shakespeare in America? Do they try to euroize their native accent to make it sound more "like Shakespeare"? All over the map. A lot depends on the concept of the entire production, whether "traditional", traditional with no accents, re-cast in another time & place, whatever. Fake weird pastiche English-y accents, sometimes with archaic pronunciation components, sometimes attemptedly consistent English accents, sometimes re-set in a different time & place not the place of the production (like a New England production of Romeo & Juliet in the antebellum south with weird pseudo-southern US-esque accents), sometimes just trying to sound like reglar people tawkin in Hoboken or New Orleans. (The famous "mid-Atlantic" accent which you still sometimes hear onstage & immortalized by early talkie actors like William Powell who came originally from stage work & education was a construction that was not just passed in trade but actually later taught in schools which devolved from the problems which arrived in early theater in the US which mostly utilized English plays until the USA started pulling together enough works written by natives in the native vernacular.) It's a tough row to hoe anyway, since the Shakespeare stuff is written in verse & perms utilize constructions around not just what the words mean but the way not the words sound, & originally pronunciations were way different from current London accents. A lot of things which used to rhyme don't anymore or have the same number of syllables no matter wherever they're said. It's all mostly an imposition of another accent on top of language that wants to do something else no matter where it's done. But easily I've heard US 'accent-free' versions working very well in areas that have softer vowel sounds than bangy Appalachian, Texas, or midwestern accents. Like every job, the result usually depends on how good the guy is who you give it to ta fabricate to the design. I always thought Edmond O'Brien was did a really good job as Casca & was one of the best things in the '53 Julius Caesar movie - he decided to use no accent, found a way to solve the problems & screw it together, came off a lot better than many others lost in the frame & verse of a production that sort of flumps.  |  IP: Logged Christian Appelt Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 505 From: Frankfurt, Germany Registered: Dec 2001 posted 05-27-2004 05:14 PM                     I found the film to be quite entertaining. Dialogue scenes are photographed unimaginative, like a tv series. Most CGI long shots looked fake and lack any detail, especially the 1000 ship fleet; no more convincing than the model ships in 1961 CLEOPATRA... There must be a target audience that just wants to see Brad Pitt's body, and they will be satisfied. Oh, and it's always great to see Peter O'Toole, but on the other hand, his presence brings up memories of so much better movies...  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 05-27-2004 05:21 PM                        quote: Christian Appelt There must be a target audience that just wants to see Brad Pitt's body, and they will be satisfied. That target audience contains such diverse individuals as Phil and Rachel for instance.  |  IP: Logged Emma Tomiak Expert Film Handler Posts: 238 From: Carrollton, TX, USA Registered: Aug 2003 posted 05-27-2004 11:04 PM                        And me! Don't forget me!  |  IP: Logged

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