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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 01-25-2005 02:24 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Why didn't YOU shoot him? Anyway I am thinking about watching the RAY DVD tonight or tomorrow night, and I will return with my fabulous opinions!

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Eric Webb
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On DVD Feb. 1st

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Joe Redifer
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 - posted 01-26-2005 03:16 AM      Profile for Joe Redifer   Author's Homepage   Email Joe Redifer   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I watched Ray on DVD tonight and it was pretty good! I have no desire to ever watch it again, simply because movies like that don't lend themselves to repeated viewings, but the movie was well made, though I felt like I've seen it before. Perhaps the whole "going through drugs and womanizing" thing has been done in other movies? Not sure. But Jamie Foxx did do an outstanding job. I didn't even really think of him until late in the movie where he takes off his glasses and opens his eyes. I was like "Oh hell that's Jamie Foxx! It's Wanda! (from In Living Color)" But he deserves the nomination. I haven't seen the other films for the actors that have been nominated, so therefore I hope Jamie wins.

The DVD has the theatrical version and some sort of extendo edition. I watched the theatrical version. And no, the DVD isn't out yet, but managers of Blockbuster get DVDs early. Good thing my friend who has either a bachelor or a masters of art degree is the manager of the local Blockbuster!

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Bill Gabel
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The extendo edition adds 24 minutes to the movie.

I watched it last Sunday night (DVD) and my review is pretty close to Joe's. Jaime did a great job in the part. I watched the extendo version. I got mine from the studio.

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Joe Redifer
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I have heard that the extendo version seems like it is repeating scenes or whatnot, and that is why I chose theatrical.

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Don Cross
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Could the movie be considered historically accurate enought- or even educational enough to be shown in a school type of setting? Too bad it could never really make it to pg13.

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Jason M Miller
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I thought this movie was great Jamie Foxx did a GREAT job, I too hope he gets the Oscar

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Phil Hill
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I liked it!

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William Hooper
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I finally got a chance to see it all the way through on DVD. It's a joyride of New Orleans theaters: the Saenger (the big atmospheric one-balcony house), & the Orpheum (two balconies, & looks like it has a proscenium over the top balcony) are used a couple of times. The hottest interior shot is in the Saenger: Ray Charles getting the idea from Milt Shaw to move to ABC at the top of a stairwell in the Saenger & getting upstaged by the ceiling & a small chandelier.

It's missing the Loew's, but it's got the 1930-ish Municipal Auditorium (built with pipe chambers), & most fun, an exterior of the New Orleans' oldest theatre: the Civic/Poche' (the Weeniemobile scene is in the now-glassless arcade).

A lot of the little stuff is delightful: listening to the commentary track, it turns out that the guy in the Atlantic booth to whom they don't have enough time to give a lot of exposition is the legendary Jesse Stone. He BELONGS there, & in his own movie, too.

Good lord, that Ampex was a visceral flashback.

quote: Steve Guttag
I didn't like the big time-jump in the last reel (post addiction).
The commentary revealed that the story for the movie was over, but Ray Charles insisted on including this episode.

One of the things that got missed (probably due to architectural differences, since they were using the LA capitol to stand in for the circular GA capitol) was in the scene where the State of Georgia made Ray Charles' version of "Georgia" the official state song: that day, they cleared out the floor, brought in a grand piano, & Ray Charles performed it there in the capitol building. Very cool moment.

I see Atlantic's still being cagey about "Mess Around" being lyrics over a more uptempo
Cow Cow Blues.

They found the *perfect* place to put Willie Metcalf, too.

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Martin Brooks
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quote: William Hooper
A lot of the little stuff is delightful: listening to the commentary track, it turns out that the guy in the Atlantic booth to whom they don't have enough time to give a lot of exposition is the legendary Jesse Stone. He BELONGS there, & in his own movie, too.
If you're referring to the engineer who edited "What I'd Say" and later built recording consoles for Ray, that's Tom Dowd, not Jesse Stone. And there is a documentary about him called "Tom Dowd & the Language of Music".

One thing the movie left out was that it was actually Ahmet Ertegun's brother Neshui who produced many of Ray's recordings. Unless I missed it, the Neshui character didn't seem to be in the movie at all. Also, while I'm not 100% sure, the movie implied that a live recording of "What'd I Say" was released. That's not accurate, the "live" recording was re-created in the studio.

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William Hooper
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Not the guy playing Tom Dowd. In the Atlantic studio scene (& maybe another) where Foxx is doing "The Midnight Hour" & they say "He sounds like Charles Brown!", etc., there's a black guy in the booth at the right identified in the commentary track as being presented as Jesse Stone. JESSE STONE AT ATLANTIC! No popular music since hasn't been influenced by him.

Nesuhi Ertegun doesn't show up & I guess you've got to be selective, but it seems like at some point they would have had to have Big Joe Turner walk through just try to even out the impression being given.

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System Notices
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It has been 732 days since the last post.


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John Wilson
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Saw this last night on dvd.

What's the difference (besides ANOTHER 18 minutes) of the extended version?

Does it end at the same place or do we actually get to see a bit of the last (apparently unimportant) years of Ray Charles' life?

Jaimie Fox: 4.5 out of 5
The Movie: 1 out of 5 (Yawn)

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