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Topic: Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire
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Mark J. Marshall
Film God
Posts: 3188
From: New Castle, DE, USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted 11-22-2005 10:53 PM
Great movie! I like how the story is progressing into darker themes with each book, and it's nice to see the movies sticking to that as well. This chapter is where the stakes really start to go up for Harry, and everyone else for that matter. They squeezed as much into the movie as they could, but as I expected there was a lot of stuff missing. For example, some customers came to our theater wearing "SPEW" buttons, and anyone who hasn't read the books probably has no clue what that's all about. There were also some key plot points that were left out that play a pretty significant roll in later chapters, and now I wonder how that will all work out. But it was a good movie on its own.
I did notice one line of dialogue that's missing from the IMAX version. Without giving anything away... near the end, Harry is standing next to a large trunk, and Dumbledore says, "Harry, get away from there," or something to that effect. That line is missing from the IMAX version. Not a big deal, but just an observation.
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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."
Posts: 10973
From: Lawton, OK, USA
Registered: Apr 2001
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posted 11-28-2005 11:25 PM
I checked out the new Harry Potter flick in Oklahoma City -mainly to finally see a movie at the 1 year old Harkins Theatres Bricktown 16 and its large Cine Capris house.
The movie was pretty decent. Solid three stars out of four. I haven't read any of the books, but simply judging on their page count it is easy to see lots of things were cut. Viewers that liked any of the previous Harry Potter installments should like this one. Those that don't like Harry Potter can just save their money.
"The Goblet of Fire" is at its best with the action set pieces, the dragon challenge in particular.
I didn't really care much for all the teen-romance angst since so much of that kind of stuff often has the "seen it before -on TV" feel to it. The best kind of romance stuff gets more deeply into character and specific motivations, not the sort of stuff that seemed clichéd here. The movie has to do everything with an economy of time. It's hard to do any kind of romance stuff well in a very short amount of time and when the movie has to serve more action oriented purposes.
The conflict between Ron Weasley and Harry Potter also seemed a bit forced. I felt something was missing from that (which may be revealed in the book in more sense making detail). The only other thing that had me scratching my head was what happened with the nasty Lucious Malfoy at the end. Seemed like the other shoe didn't drop.
Image quality on this show was pretty decent -at least as good as it could be with 35mm projection blown up a bit too big for its britches. The big Cine Capris screen at the Bricktown 16 is 30' tall by 70' wide. That's a size more appropriate for 70mm projection. The booth does have a nice Kinoton projector. I couldn't see well enough into the booth from the port glass to tell what else was in there.
Sound quality on this picture was really pretty good overall. The mix had a good number of aggressive surround movements and startlingly loud instances. Again, the dragon challenge was the big sound system workout. The Cine Capris showed the movie in Dolby Digital -they even ran the "Aurora" DD trailer (as well as a Cine Capris snipe) right at the show's beginning. This was the first time in several years that I have seen a DD trailer played in a commercial movie theater. The last time was at a Mann location in Colorado. All of the movie trailers before the show played in Dolby Digital as well. With all the trailers in DD, there weren't any stupid instances where an analog track was playing way too loud. Some of the trailers were pretty aggressive (such as the one for Monster House).
A manager greeted the audience before the start of the show, something you typically see only in IMAX theaters these days. It's also rare to find a theater that has curtains. They play a video-based Kodak Digital Cinema pre-show (which looked pretty dim compared to the film projection). The curtains closed when the manager walked in to greet the audience. I forget how many speakers he said were in the auditorium (since one of my friends was running his mouth at the time). I counted 29 Klipsch speakers in the surround array. I think the guy said "17,000 watts of amplification" but I might have heard it wrong. The sound system had more thump to it than I've heard in a good while, especially for a stadium seated auditorium this size. Brad's private theater still wins the "most thump" contest. It's the only one I've visited that creates wind.
Here's a question for people familiar with other Harkins Theaters. Do most of their locations feature a full blown projection setup in the lobby just for playing movie trailers? I've never seen this kind of setup before. A full projection and platter setup is installed above the box office and it throws onto a large screen above the really big concession counter. Overall, the Harkins Bricktown 16 holds the title as Oklahoma City's best movie theater. At least it holds the title for now. We'll see what happens when Warren Theaters finishes that all-THX 20-plex just south of OKC in Moore.
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Sam Graham
AKA: "The Evil Sam Graham". Wackiness ensues.
Posts: 1431
From: Waukee, IA
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted 11-28-2005 11:40 PM
CINEMA: Megaplex 17 at Jordan Commons, Sandy, UT
AUDITORIUM: Cricket IMAX
PRESENTATION: IMAX
PRESENTATION PROBLEMS: None ![[Cool]](cool.gif)
Rating: Three stars (out of four)
I can see one benefit to this whole "reserved seating" thing. Large families (in Utah? Naah!) can assure everybody can sit together. Aside from that, it's kind of annoying. Most people seem to have to be guided to their seats. This includes late comers, who are directed by an usher with a big flashlight. The late comers have to climb over timely patrons, whereas late comers to normal movies usually just pick an available seat convenient to the aisle.
Then there's the people who don't like the seats they reserved. There was a guy and his two teenagers next to us (lower tier, row F). His daughter is complaining. "Dad, why did you pick these seats?"
"So we could see."
"Well my friends and I sat up there last time and it was PERFECT!"
"Fine. We can move."
"No we can't. Those seats cost more."
"No they don't."
"Yes they do, Dad."
"I don't think so."
"Well you're wrong."
So they stayed. By the way, she's wrong. And there was plenty of empty seats. Another couple in our aisle DID get up and move to the upper tier seating after the movie started.
This is the first Potter movie I have no desire to see a second time. It was good, and I'll be getting the DVD, but it does come off as being cut quite a bit. And elements of the tournament really bugged me. I'm not going to get into them.
I WILL get into the presentation. This was my first IMAX show, and it was good. The center channel problem noted in the "Large Format" forum is fixed, though the new equipment sounds like it's stressing on loud voices. The picture was outstanding. Wife #1 asked "So when the screen (at the Century 20 Jordan Creek) looks blurry to me, it's NOT my eyes?"
I'd like to watch ALL movies in here from now on, please.
[ 11-29-2005, 10:23 AM: Message edited by: Sam Graham ]
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Matt Fields
Jedi Master Film Handler
Posts: 545
From: Ohio, United States
Registered: Jun 2005
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posted 12-01-2005 08:17 AM
quote: Bobby Henderson
The conflict between Ron Weasley and Harry Potter also seemed a bit forced. I felt something was missing from that (which may be revealed in the book in more sense making detail). The only other thing that had me scratching my head was what happened with the nasty Lucious Malfoy at the end. Seemed like the other shoe didn't drop.
Just to fill in anyone who hasn't read the books and were confused on these two points...
The in book, once the tournament is announced, everyone wants to enter. Most of the students think it would be cool be have "eternal glory" and win the prize money (The prize money was cut from the movie).
Ron and his brothers, being a very poor family, are especially keen to enter even though they are not old enough. Fred and George try, Dumbledores magic stops them. Anyways, Ron gets pissed at Harry because he thinks he went behind his back at putting his name in when Ron wanted to enter too. He thinks Harry is hogging the spotlight.
Once Harry has to take on the dragon and Ron realizes that he wouldn't want to be in the tournament anyway, they make up.
Voldemort is angry at all of his Death Eaters, but he still needs them to wage the upcoming war. Lucious has many contacts at the Ministry of Magic, and Voldemort needs him to spy and do other assorted dirty work in the future.
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Will Kutler
Phenomenal Film Handler
Posts: 1506
From: Tucson, AZ, USA
Registered: Feb 2001
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posted 01-12-2006 10:39 PM
I am currently in the middle of reading the book, and just saw the film the other day.
I guess I am a "purist" and enjoy it when a film (which is rare) accurately follows the book.
This film definately does not follow the book, and much has been butchered and/or left out!
Opening Scene inaccurate, no Dursleys, the Qudiich World Cup was hap-hazzardly cut, the attack scene at the World Cut totally inaccurate, no platform 9 3/4, Sirius Black was greatly ignored, no House Elves, the Veela were nothing like what was described in the book....Michael Gambon was no Richard Harris, Krum was not like what was described in the book, scene about dress robes not accurate, what else am I missing?
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