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Robert Harris
Film Handler

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From: Bedford Hills, NY, USA
Registered: May 2003


 - posted 01-16-2006 10:04 AM      Profile for Robert Harris   Email Robert Harris   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Having worked out a 35 vs. 65 budget for what was to have been David Lean's final film, the numbers are not all that far off. It worked out to (as I recall) under $500,000. Especially, with a bit of cooperation from Panavision and Kodak, which we had.

There is no difference in audio.

IMHO, the only real obstacle to a current 70/5 release is the quality of projection and continuous print damage from those venues who refuse to place qualified projection engineers in the booth.

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Bill Gabel
Film God

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From: Technicolor / Postworks NY, USA
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 - posted 01-16-2006 10:48 AM      Profile for Bill Gabel   Email Bill Gabel   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Paul Linfesty
Isn't this a bit deceptive? One, if the 135 minute version is really an improvement, then why show a longer version to groups in order to be considered for awards?
Yes, it is a bit deceptive. This is the way New Line told us to run the show. The longer version opened in three theatres in the US on December 25th. and has played numerous guild screenings. The director decided on the changes late in the game and reworked the film for the January 20th. release date. So it's up to how New Line and the Academy (AMPAS)want to handle what version they will consider. I handle many guild and press screenings here in NYC. I just play what they send me.

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Ian Price
Phenomenal Film Handler

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From: Denver, CO
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 - posted 01-26-2006 01:03 AM      Profile for Ian Price   Email Ian Price   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Mumble, mumble, mumble...

I wonder WTF they were talking about? [Confused]

A good cast wasted by one simple wrong direction.

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Anslem Rayburn
Master Film Handler

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From: Yuma, AZ, USA
Registered: May 2002


 - posted 01-26-2006 04:51 AM      Profile for Anslem Rayburn   Email Anslem Rayburn   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
I haven't seen this, and I don't plan to. Nothing interesting to me. I am a bit angered by getting the run time from the 'net, only to find out after the first day that it was shorter than we scheduled for. I could've gotten out of work earlier.

I would never sacrifice decent showtimes for the sake of going home early, but a 15 minute difference in a movie of this length would mean an earlier 'late' show, which would be important in my town. This time of year, we have a LOT of seniors that won't go to late, late shows. They are also the primary audience here for this film.

I wish the bookers would have told us about this before we ran the film. Our newspaper ad could not be changed after screening it on Thursday and finding out the film was much shorter than what we thought. Had we known on Monday when we did the listings, things would have been different...

No shows for this one before noon (since nobody came to it anyway), and an earlier evening show (so more people might think about coming to it in our sleepy little town) would have made a substantial swing in our attendance.

But maybe I'm expecting to much to get accurate run times from a booker...

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Jon Morgan
Film Handler

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 - posted 01-30-2006 04:18 PM      Profile for Jon Morgan   Email Jon Morgan   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
People get run times from their bookers? Whoa. I read mine from tea leaves.

As for The New World, I really liked it. Not as good as The Thin Red Line, but still very good. I don't expect most people would like it, though.

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Bobby Henderson
"Ask me about Trajan."

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From: Lawton, OK, USA
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 - posted 01-30-2006 06:10 PM      Profile for Bobby Henderson   Email Bobby Henderson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Robert Harris
IMHO, the only real obstacle to a current 70/5 release is the quality of projection and continuous print damage from those venues who refuse to place qualified projection engineers in the booth.
Not just any theater should be booked with 70mm prints. The prints need to go where they are most sorely needed, really large venues with giant oversized screens -some even equal in size to some IMAX screens.

4/35 just doesn't really cut it being shown on a 70' wide by 30' tall screen. Quite a few screens like this exist in "destination" megaplex sites across the country. There are several just an hour or two of driving distance from me (in Dallas and Oklahoma City), and I'm way out here in Oklahoma, not near either coast.

I agree projectionists, in general, need more training and qualifications to show "film done right." On the bright side, formats like 70mm DTS can greatly reduce the cost of 5/70 prints. It's still worth getting angry about a 70mm print getting damaged, but those kinds of prints wouldn't be as bad a loss as a mag-striped 70mm Dolby SR print worth up to $20,000 (or even more).

I'm still waiting for an opportunity to see The New World at a decent theater. It isn't playing locally. I liked The Thin Red Line alright, but was mainly impressed with the cinematography. Some really incredible camera crane tricks were on display, such as one running up an angled hillside.

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