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Louis Bornwasser
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Cinema #3 Corydon Indiana; Dolby Digital. Only one drop out in middle of the short. No marks of any kind on feature. Sharp/clear projection; but feature transferred "just" out of focus.

No one has mentioned the panned dialog!!!! I have not heard this for a long time.

Note that Gary Rydstrom, Gary Thom and others from the original Star Wars have credits. Also Jay Ward (Bullwinkle). Louis

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Paul Mayer
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I noticed "Jay Ward" in the credits too, but unless it's a pseudonym or tribute, it's not the Jay Ward of Bullwinkle fame. That Jay Ward passed on in 1989.

One thing I forgot to pass along was listening to the audience reactions. An audible gasp from the whole crowd went up with the shot of all the rats being revealed when the old lady's ceiling came down. Later wide shots showing rat crowd scenes didn't get that reaction. I guess people had warmed up to the critters by then. [Big Grin]

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Brad Miller
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I screened this at the Arlington SMG theater and also at the Rave in Lewisville in digital. The film print at Arlington looked better in every way than the digital. (Sounded significantly better too.) The digital presentation was very soft and not as vivid overall as the film presentation (and yet this ORIGINATED in the digital domain!) As such I am still not sold on this digital shit. The industry just needs to get some competent projectionists and couple them with good equipment. It's not that hard.

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Scott Norwood
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I saw it in DLP and thought that it looked pretty good. I haven't seen a film print for comparison, however. Interestingly, it seems that the theatre (AMC/Loews Boston Common cinema #8) has removed the 35mm equipment from this house. There was something "wrong" with the screen surface, but I assume that it was just a silver screen that was installed for 3D.

In any case, it was a quality motion picture and I can recommend it. Not as good as the Incredibles, but better than Cars. It was interesting that they played two trailers (Bee Movie and Robots) that both used the theme from "Brazil."

Edit: I should add that I enjoyed the short, but that it wasn't new at all. I know that it played as part of some animation compilation that I ran last year (the Ron Diamond show, I think).

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Mark J. Marshall
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quote: Louis Bornwasser
No one has mentioned the panned dialog!!!! I have not heard this for a long time.
I've noticed that on at least the last four Pixar features. Very nice job on that as always!

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Brad Allen
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Location: Kerasotes Stadium 16 Evansville, In
Auditorium 1: 4:10pm
Equipment:Dolby Digital Cinema
Rating: 3 out of 5

This was my first experience with a digital presentation. I have never seen a presentation at this theatre that was in focus. This one included. It was horribly out of focus. It seems no one in the this complex understands what a focus knob is for or maybe everyone needs a trip to the eye doctor. I'm sure it didn't help that the port glass and end of the lens that I could see were filthy. I've learned from past experience it's a waste of time to complain about the presentation, as the managers have this blank stare to give in return. Focus? Film? Projectors? We have those? I once complained about focus issues to see someone later messing with the framing. Sigh.

Screen was not evenly lit, the bottom fourth of the screen was cosiderably darker.

Only thing I can say about digital is the rock solid picture stability. I did see a considerable amount of pixelation during action scenes.

Rat is a good film, not really for the kids, but a good film. Definitely not one of Pixars crowning achievements, but definitely better than most of the slock we've been handed this summer so far.

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Joe Redifer
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First of all I must say that fancy foods and fancy restaurants disgust me, therefore there was no way in hell for me to connect to the characters here. I did not like this movie. The main human character is extremely annoying, especially his voice. I started fast-forwarding towards the end when they were getting ready to make a meal for the evil critic. Then I just said "Hell with this" and stopped watching altogether. While the graphics, animation and sound were all friggin' great, they could not save this movie. I was even able to watch A Bug's Life and Cars to the very end, and those movies were complete pieces of shit!

Hopefully the next Pixar movie will be good.

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Mike Blakesley
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I dunno, having seen the trailer for "Wall-E" that was enclosed with Ratatouille, I'm not sure what to think. The one-sheet makes it look like a retread of "Robots." But they've always surpassed my expectations before, so....

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Chad M Calpito
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I must say, that while I liked the Graphics and Animation in this movie, I found that it was boring, not nearly as interesting as one might think. A complete waste of time, since, I, too, can't stand Rich, Fancy restraunts nor can I relate to them.

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Rob J. Buskop
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Interesting, this.. After all the positive comments I was really hyped to go and see this. Conclusion: Technically extraordinary well made. As a film though, I think it's flat and not very good. Any 5 minutes out of a Wallace and Gromit short has more content, humor and emotion. The script simply was'nt good enough.

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Bobby Henderson
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Bump.

Rotten Tomatoes has given Ratatouille the 2007 Golden Tomato award for the year's best reviewed wide-release movie. Ratatouille ended up with a final percentage of 96%. Very impressive.

By comparison, the Best Picture nominees in this year's Oscar race stack up as follows:
No Country For Old Men 94%
Juno 93%
There Will Be Blood 91%
Michael Clayton 90%
Atonement 82%

Movies competing with Ratatouille in the Best Animated Film Category:
Persepolis 95%
Surf's Up 77%

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Joe Redifer
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I cannot believe that 90% of people enjoyed Micheal Clayton. I do not approve of that figure. Nothing happened in that movie!

I'd be willing to give Ratta Tooie another try on Blu-Ray... if I can watch it for free.

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Mark Gulbrandsen
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I saw it in Digital at Megaplex Gateway on a 60+ foot wide screen and it looked and sounded gorgous! On a really good THX sound system like this one the uncompressed digital track really comes through. In many out of focus cinema locations I generally find the the focus issues are not the actual lens focus but a filthy port glass. Either way an excuse is no excuse!!!

Mark

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Bobby Henderson
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I'm glad to see I'm not the only one wondering if the AMPAS made a mistake by overlooking Ratatouille in the Best Picture Oscar category.

News Story Link

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Was 'Ratatouille' ripped off in Oscar race?

NEW YORK (AP) -- Among the tales of depravity and violence that dominate this year's Academy Awards race sits the bright and shining "Ratatouille." A rat never seemed so sanitized.

The Pixar film landed five Oscar nominations and was ranked by many critics as one of the year's best, yet was never a serious contender for best picture. Instead, it was relegated to the relatively new category of best animated feature, which the academy began dolling out in 2002.

Directed by Brad Bird, "Ratatouille" has garnered an aggregate score of 96 on Metacritic.com, ranking it above "Pulp Fiction," let alone this year's best picture candidates: "No Country for Old Men," "There Will Be Blood," "Juno," "Atonement" and "Michael Clayton."

And its other nominations across three different disciplines -- best original screenplay, best score, best sound mixing and best sound editing -- suggests the kind of broad consensus that often results in bigger awards like best director or best picture.

Its five nominations rank as the most ever for a computer animated film, and rate second among all animated films, only surpassed by the six received by Disney's "Beauty and the Beast." That picture, done in the traditional Disney style in 1991, stands as the only animated film to ever be nominated for best picture.

If not for the best animated feature category, it's safe to say "Ratatouille" would have been strongly considered for best picture. Brad Lewis, the film's producer, is quick to point out that he has no sour grapes with the academy -- and that he's ecstatic about the five widespread nominations.

Still, he has to wonder.

"Ultimately, it makes it perhaps too convenient for people to look at an animated film from an isolated perspective," said Lewis. "Somebody can say, 'You know what? We have a place for that, so we don't necessarily have to give it broader consideration.' "

Tom O'Neil, a columnist specializing in awards coverage for the Los Angeles Times' "The Envelope" Web site, has pondered whether "Ratatouille" -- which he calls the best reviewed movie of the year -- is the equivalent of "Beauty and the Beast," only it had to deal with the specialized category.

"Is this a case where it's penalized and ghettoized because there's a separate category for animated fare?" O'Neill said. "It seems to have the same respect in the industry and among film critics as 'Beauty and the Beast.' "

"Ratatouille," made by Walt Disney Company and its Pixar Animations Studios, is also not a conventional animated movie. Its framing is largely based on the techniques of classic filmmaking, and the story of a rat who dreams to be a chef has been called a Joycean "Portrait of the Artist as a Young Rat."

"I don't think people when they walk out of 'Ratatouille' the first thing that they're thinking about is 'I went and saw an animated film today,' " said Lewis. "It's partly because we're telling more sophisticated stories and I think it's because we have a more sophisticated filmmaking tool."

"Ratatouille" also has the support of that great international critical body: the French. The film, which is set in Paris and imbued with French culture, was No. 1 at France's box office for six weeks in a row -- surpassing a record set by "Titanic." After making $206 million at the domestic box office, "Ratatouille" made $410 million internationally.

Those totals are much greater than any of the best picture nominees, which combined haven't grossed as much domestically as "Ratatouille."

New York Times film critic A.O. Scott listed "Ratatouille" as one of the five films that deserved to be nominated for best picture. He earlier called it "a nearly flawless piece of popular art, as well as one of the most persuasive portraits of an artist ever committed to film."

That judgment is notable in part because it doesn't make use of the word "animated."

Lewis, who's working on directing a film for Pixar, cited fellow nominee "Persepolis" -- an animated French language film about a girl coming of age during the Islamic Revolution -- as proof of the breadth to animation today. (The third Oscar nominee is the more standard family fare of "Surf's Up.")

"The type of filmmaking that's taking place in the animation category is very broad," said Lewis. "And it's perhaps traveling beyond what people felt the parentheses of the industry were before."

And considering the increasing role that digital animation and computer-generated imagery play in the making of nearly all movies today, it's becoming difficult to firmly say what is and isn't animated. Just as "Ratatouille" reflects live-action filmmaking, live-action films like "King Kong" and "Transformers" often reflect animated works.

"It's folly to have a separate animated category because it hurts the chances of a movie like 'Ratatouille' for being in the best picture race," said O'Neil. "But considering the academy history and the fact that only once did they have the guts to do it, at least the little rat is getting the chance to be a big cheese in one category."


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Monte L Fullmer
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In Boise, there is an "arthouse" cinema that is playing "Persepolis", thus I cheked some of it out (had to go there to fix a STRONG MUT on a service call) to see what the hoopla on this flik being up for best animated feature was all about.

Being in French with English subtitles, and drawn in the "Felix the Cat" ink and pen style of animation and the storyline that is tradition French style, one can see why this film would be on the best feature list - mainly due to its uniqueness of what the film contains (about a 10yr old girl in war torn Iran)...but only for the highly selected adult audience-not the more wider audience range as what"Ratatouille" contains.

Thus, one can see the complete opposite between "Ratatouille: and "Perseopolis"

....and whoever put in "Surf's Up" for best animated pict oughta be shot.. Enough of the penquin political nonsense.

-Monte

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