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Author Topic: Bourne Ultimatum (2007) Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-09-2007 11:02 AM                     Paul Greengrass is just a shitty director. Everything he has done sucks and he simply tries to cover up his incompetence with the epileptic cam under the notion that it creates more tension.  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-09-2007 11:23 AM                        quote: Kurt Zupin Paul Greengrass did the last two bourne films. No, just "Supremacy" and the current one. Unless you meant, "the two most recent Bourne Films." Doug Liman directed "The Bourne Identity."  |  IP: Logged Louis Bornwasser Film God Posts: 4441 From: prospect ky usa Registered: Mar 2005 posted 08-09-2007 02:47 PM                        Time for him to retire. Louis  |  IP: Logged Kurt Zupin Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 989 From: Maricopa, Arizona Registered: Oct 2004 posted 08-09-2007 03:36 PM                     quote: Mike Blakesley No, just "Supremacy" and the current one. Unless you meant, "the two most recent Bourne Films." Doug Liman directed "The Bourne Identity." Yeah Mike, that would be the last two films. Ultimatum and Supremacy Ahh apple to oranges  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-09-2007 07:26 PM                     You guys go back and watch the forst installment... it's imagery flows far better than number two or three.  |  IP: Logged Kurt Zupin Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 989 From: Maricopa, Arizona Registered: Oct 2004 posted 08-10-2007 05:10 AM                     I agree Mark, the first one is awsome. The 2nd had some great car chases and this one was just a good story.  |  IP: Logged David Stambaugh Film God Posts: 4021 From: Eugene, Oregon Registered: Jan 2002 posted 08-11-2007 11:32 PM                        Saw this today in #3 at Regal 15 in Shelbyville where the presentation was very good except for the bottom 25% or so of the image is out of focus. The rest of the image is very sharp. Someone needs to fix it if possible because subtitles were very fuzzy. I liked the movie a lot. Very intense without being too overly complicated. I agree there was just a little too much Shaky-Cam but waddaya gonna do. After the movie's huge opening, you know they'll have to do #4 but I read somewhere that Matt Damon wants out. Well he should offer to keep going but only at his price. He has a lock on the role. Stick it to the man! Just don't get TOO greedy or they might find someone even better than you like the Bond series did with Daniel Craig.  |  IP: Logged Mike Heenan Phenomenal Film Handler Posts: 1896 From: Scottsdale, AZ, USA Registered: Mar 2000 posted 08-11-2007 11:41 PM                     Saw this one today, I liked it. Didn't have any problems with the shaky cam, neither did my folks who were with me.  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 08-12-2007 01:07 AM                        I liked it, the hectic camera thing did not bother me too much except that you can't really see much of the fight scenes. It's just arms and legs all over the place, or rather all over the frame. Paul Greengrass is just a shitty director. Everything he has done sucks and he simply tries to cover up his incompetence with the epileptic cam under the notion that it creates more tension. Tell us how you really feel about Greengrass, Brad.  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-12-2007 08:59 AM                     Michael, can you remember who you are ?????  |  IP: Logged Mike Blakesley Film God Posts: 12767 From: Forsyth, Montana Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-12-2007 01:06 PM                        I don't think shaky-cam has anything to do with someone being a good director or not -- it's either: (1) The actors can't pull off a believeable action scene or (2) the action scene is choreographed so ridiculously that no humans could ever act it out.  |  IP: Logged Brad Miller Administrator Posts: 17775 From: Plano, TX (36.2 miles NW of Rockwall) Registered: May 99 posted 08-12-2007 01:29 PM                     I strongly disagree. When a director ALWAYS uses the shaky cam, it is quite clear to me that he does not know how to properly direct an action scene. If you can't tell what's going on half of the time...it's shitty directing. Paul Greengrass is stupid. (That was for David)  |  IP: Logged Mark Gulbrandsen Resident Trollmaster Posts: 16657 From: Music City Registered: Jun 99 posted 08-12-2007 06:48 PM                     I agree with Brad on this one. Its sad too that with the grosses this film is doing that we will obviously have to put up with more ineptness from the same director down the line. Mark  |  IP: Logged Michael Schaffer "Where is the Boardwalk Hotel?" Posts: 4143 From: Boston, MA Registered: Apr 2002 posted 08-12-2007 11:15 PM                        quote: Mark Gulbrandsen Michael, can you remember who you are????? Funny, now that you mention it, I can only remember stuff 8 years back or so, before that, I remember bits and pieces, but no coherent stories. Hmmm...maybe those bits and pieces are residue of my earlier identity, or maybe they are part of the new identity I received back then? Who knows...  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 08-13-2007 04:18 AM                        Michael Shaffer, your response of "tell us how you really feel" was well thought out and right on target! It was also extremely witty and added much to the thread. You sure put Brad in his place. How dare he get directly to the point with words that may frighten the timid! That deserved the appropriate comment which you thoughtfully provided. In all my years of reading text on the internet and listening to people converse in real life, I have never heard such an original response. Keep 'em comin' Mike!  |  IP: Logged

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