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Sam Graham
AKA: "The Evil Sam Graham". Wackiness ensues.

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CINEMA: Megaplex 17 at Jordan Commons, Sandy, UT
AUDITORIUM: 14
PRESENTATION: Dolby Digital Cinema DLP/THX
PRESENTATION PROBLEMS: None [Cool]
RATING: Two and one half stars (out of four)

WARNING: "Spoooooiiiilllleeeerrrrrrsssss!"

ANOTHER new THX trailer? Tex tours an internal combustion engine. It kind of sucks.

THE PLOT: The Russians want to rule the world through the Psychic Friends Network. Wackiness ensues.

Well, it was silly and kind of dumb, but a lot of fun anyway. I'm sure the Mummy 3 movie will make it look like Academy material.

THING THAT ANNOYED ME ABOUT THE MAGNETIC SCENE: They go around Hanger 51 looking for this heavily magnetized box, throw stuff in the air that goes after it, have all sorts of problems with guns and stuff being attracted to it, but have NO PROBLEMS SLIDING IT INTO A STEEL TRUCK?

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John Wilson
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Maybe the truck was CGI. Every other bloody thing in the movie is. (Assuming CGI is not magnetic. That would be logical, but then I thought Crystal wasn't magnetic either so...)

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"It's not the years Honey, it's all these fucking computer effects that's really done me in" - Indiana Jones

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Joe Redifer
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CGI is not magnetic. I just loaded up Ray Dream Studio version 5 and I could not get anything to stick to it.

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John Wilson
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From IMDB...

>>Sean Connery was approached for a cameo appearance as Henry Jones Sr., Indiana's father, but he turned it down, finding retirement too enjoyable. George Lucas later stated that in retrospect it was good that Jones Sr. did not appear, as it would disappoint the audience when he would not come along for the adventure. Harrison Ford also joked that he was getting old enough to play his own father, so Sean wasn't needed anymore.<<

More likely he read the script and told them to shove it.

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Joe Redifer
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I wonder how much he was compensated for the use of his still photograph.

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Jaime Tuzzio
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quote: David Stambaugh
When First Look ended and the film rolled, the near-sellout crowd was treated to a good 90 seconds of black leader projected before the first trailer, including various buzzes in the audio.
I bet you that was an interlock leader.

According to the doubled times listed on Fandango, if you were watching the 1:15, 3:00, 3:30, 4:30, 6:15, or 7:45 show you were watching an interlocked print.

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John Wilson
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quote: Joe Redifer
I wonder how much he was compensated for the use of his still photograph.
He wasn't invited to the premiere...that surely was compensation enough.

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Brad Miller
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George probably used CGI to digitally insert Connery into the video clips of the premiere. [Big Grin]

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Mark J. Marshall
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I saw this movie twice this past weekend at the Regal Brandywine in Wilmington, Delaware. The first show was apparently DTS, and I noticed no digital drop outs. I did notice the washed out reel 5 that was mentioned earlier. A- on the presentation (we also had a mile long black leader with green scratches on it).

The second show sounded like SRD, and it was dropping out to analog like crazy. I told one theater employee there, and he said he couldn't hear it. He called the projectionist, and apparently he manually dropped it into analog. The digital came back by itself later and then promptly started dropping again. Ugh. It was also started slightly out of frame showing the negative splices on the bottom. I asked them to have the projectionist frame it down slightly, and he framed it down far enough for us to see the negative splices on the top. Moron. I brought a manager into the auditorium and explained about negative splices and showed him the problem and he eventually talked his booth guy through fixing it. After the show, I found the manager again to thank him, and also advised him of the digital drop outs. His response was that the tech was there that day checking everything, and that just because I hear it and he (the manager) can hear it, regular people can't hear it. So I give them a solid D- on the presentation, and an F for not acknowledging (or seeming to care about) a digital sound problem with their biggest movie.

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Anyway, I enjoyed the film, both times. I did think that the flying saucer at the end could have been left out completely and it would have worked a little better. By adding the flying saucer, I think the film makers took something away from the movie. Almost like adding the scenes at the end of CE3K for the special edition seemed to take something away from the movie. At least it did for me. But I didn't mind the flying saucer in the movie. It fit the context of the story. I just think the story would have been a little better without it.

One thing I will say to Mr. Spielberg is this: "THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU... for proving that you do not need to hit your camera man with an electric shock to add tension to a scene." Hopefully the other action film makers of the world are paying attention... but they probably aren't.

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David Stambaugh
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quote: Jaime Tuzzio
if you were watching the 1:15, 3:00, 3:30, 4:30, 6:15, or 7:45 show you were watching an interlocked print
This was the 11:45AM show.

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Brad Miller
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Mark - we noticed there are framing issues with the printing itself on the Indy prints. Reel 2 seemed to be the worst for us. Odd since our prints were ran on loop printers, not the shitty K printers.

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Jeremy Weigel
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Did anyone else notice a dark shadow at the bottom of the image at times? I first thought this my change over not being fully opened, but when I wiggled it ever so slightly the shadow didn't move on the screen. There were also scenes that had shadows at both top and bottom, giving an almost tunnel effect.

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John Wilson
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When Indy's face is shown for the first time (RUSSIANS!) is he standing behind a pane of glass for a reason? Or in front of a pane of glass? There's definately a reflection there that shouldn't be there. Perhaps they put it there so they can take it out in the 'clean-up' for the DVD release a-la the Cobra in 'Raiders'.

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Mark J. Marshall
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quote: Brad Miller
Odd since our prints were ran on loop printers, not the shitty K printers.
Is this something that you checked on, or is there a way to tell the difference on the print itself?

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Brad Miller
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Look at the sticker on the end of the reels. If there is a K18 in the corner, than that was printed on a K model printer #18. If it was a loop printer, it would say something like L4 (loop printer #4).

Also it is the K printers that are the reason why 50% of the reels will come heads and tails out mixed since they print the reel forward, then the next one is printed backwards, then forward, then backwards. The loop printers run continuously in a loop and all reels end up at the theater heads up. Plus the negative doesn't get as dirty and since it is newer technology the prints are of higher quality. If you ever happen to get 2 prints of the same movie and one was a K print and the other an L print, do a side by side comparison. The L print will be better every time. (Unfortunately there isn't an official lab guy willing/able to join in on the discussions to explain why this is so, and why Deluxe keeps using the bouncy, bouncey, bouncey K printers.)

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