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Author Topic: Inception (2010) David Alexander B Film Handler Posts: 16 From: Waterloo Belgium Registered: Jul 2008 posted 07-22-2010 05:36 PM                        well we saw it in 3DLP. 2.35 screen (only one imax in belgium and is was scrapped, what a pitty) movie: had a hard time getting into it. since (spoilers) most action scenes are dreams, there's no "believability" in it. vs as if it was a real action/thriller movie. at least in a LETHAL WEAPON or DIE HARD you care for the action, you're "into it" because it's ''happening". here ? i think Nolan is getting caught at his own twisting minds approach... (or should we start to say: all the great movie concepts/ideas have already be done ? and himself having put the bar so high in BB/MEM/TDK/INSOMINA/THE PRESTIGE, all (imho) masterpieces ?).Also there's been the MATRIX already done... (and its action scenes and sound were amazing). great score by Zimmer. but i put BATMAN/TDK/THE PRESTIGE (loved that one) well above image: soft! or is it high def at home on 10-14ft screens that set the bar now and 2K on 70ft screens don't do it no more ? sound: disappointed but i would say it was the theater not well equipped (not enough amp power/subs) or something else TDK/T SALVATION/STAR TREK had all amazing sound and image presentations. but not this one. or is NOlan's audio team changed ? for instance the action scenes (cars chasing, bullets) had no real punch. too low (level), no dynamics. the overal volume was too low too.  |  IP: Logged John Wilson Film God Posts: 5438 From: Sydney, Australia. Registered: Dec 1999 posted 07-22-2010 06:10 PM                     quote: or instance the action scenes (cars chasing, bullets) had no real punch. too low (level), no dynamics. the overal volume was too low too. That last part is most likely the reason for the first parts and obviously has little to do with the director and everything to do with a 'projectionist' who is too lazy to get up off his ass and check the auditorium volume and adjust it accordingly. Some blame must also be levelled at the floor staff for not speaking up and saying "'Inception' doesn't seem loud enough." When I started at my current location 10 years ago, everything was played on '5'. Everything. Of course, they weren't (and aren't) the only ones who do it this way but it's just not good enough to say everything is the same. As much as they like to tell you, audio levels are all over the place and need to be monitored accordingly. I started a system where now an individual volume is set for each and every feature on its first run and entered into the automation so it's set for the duration of its run. Currently, I have audio variances from 5.4 to 7.2.  |  IP: Logged Mark J. Marshall Film God Posts: 3188 From: New Castle, DE, USA Registered: Aug 2002 posted 07-22-2010 09:30 PM                    I had a similar problem when I started at a theater a few years ago. Everything and I mean EVERYTHING was set too low. I cranked them all up to where they should have been. The next day a manager asked me... "Did you turn all the movies up?" When I told him yes he answered, "MAN they sound SO much better!"  |  IP: Logged David Alexander B Film Handler Posts: 16 From: Waterloo Belgium Registered: Jul 2008 posted 07-23-2010 05:09 AM                        i't a bit of luck or misluck here terminator salvation (not even in 3DLP PCM but 35mm DD) had an amazing sound in a theater of the same cinema group. same for STAR TREK (3DLP remarquable image btw) but it takes only a few elderly complaining to the direction of the theater complex about sound "too loud" and voilà, ref level, level at which a feature should be listened, is screwed up public doesn't realise there's a certan level needed to hear ALL the soundtrack of a movie (every detail etc) (lol i confirm too watanabe should take english lessons) i also think the bass in Inception are typical of noland's: deep (overdeep) and the subs/amps couldn't handle it  |  IP: Logged Elise Brandt Expert Film Handler Posts: 160 From: Kuusankoski, FIN/ Kouvola, Finland Registered: Dec 2009 posted 07-24-2010 04:29 AM                     I adore the deep bass. The theater sound system did handle it well, but with the soundtrack in my car and with earphones, not so much. I can't think of anything I did't like in this movie. The car chase sequence toward the beginning started to get dull but then the *thonk* sound of a guy hitting the car windscreen woke me right up. Amazing sound, that one. And perfectly timed, too. But again, it does need sufficient volume to have the impact I imagine was the goal. Theater was half-full (which is a very good turnout for an opening night here) and after the movie they all disappered very quickly and silently. Can be either a very good or an extremely bad sign. Obviously hoping for the former. But during the movie, no disturbance whatsoever so at least it did grip the audiende in the appropriate way. Oh and the ending. without saying anything in the way of spoilers for those who didn't go already, I did feel a bit of "well I don't know, it's good right but perfect? How?" but the last frames kind of pulled the whole thing together for me. Is it or isn't it? Very well done. I don't even bother with stars or numbers. I'll just stay that although the film itself wasn't sad or the ending that emotional, I did leave the theater with a little chest-pressing feeling like a sob getting out. Mind you, it didn't, but the feeling itself tells me a lot of the impact of the movie on the whole. And that it comes only after and not during the movie is the best sign. Loved it. Can't wait to go again.  |  IP: Logged Stu Jamieson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 524 From: Buccan, Qld, Australia Registered: Jan 2008 posted 07-24-2010 09:01 PM                     It's tempting to review Inception simply by saying, "it's just such a Nolan film" and leave it at that as that short statement embodies just about every complementary declaration that can be made about possibly the finest director currently working in Hollywood. A perusal of Christopher Nolan's catalogue of work - Memento, Insomnia, Batman Begins, The Prestige and The Dark Knight - reveals not one dud, indeed it is a filmography of great distinguished bent which bridges the divide between exquisite intellectual cinema and populist multiplex fare. That he also writes his own screenplays alludes to a truly remarkable mind; the only thing more remarkable about the Memento script, for instance, is that somebody was actually able to conceive such an idea (actually by Nolan's brother, Jonathan) and then have the extraordinary gymnastic mind to to commit its complex structure to the page. Similar can be said for Inception, for although the mechanics of the script itself are less complex than that of Memento, its conceptualisation is no less profound. Few films succeed in the presentation of high concept premises and there are few higher concepts than those which deal with the process of conceptualisation itself. This is the currency of Inception, a film which examines the notion of the birth and theft of ideas and the real costs imposed upon those who possess the technological and physical capability to trade in it. Such themes invoke palpable parallels to Videodrome with its questioning of the nature of reality and our perception of it. Although it is far from the visceral experience of David Cronenberg's 1983 magnum opus, is it too much to suggest that Inception is this generation's Videodrome? Imbued with masterfully executed parallel-reality action sequences, sterling performances from an A-list cast and a ticking clock soundtrack driving the momentum of the film forward at a hasty clip, Nolan's ability to deliver such a high concept premise to the masses is without equal. Shoring up his cerebral journey with such bankable attributes, he guarantees the choking of multiplexes with intellectuals and action fans alike. With repeat viewings revealing unforeseen subtleties further enriching the viewing experience, Inception stealthily deceives the casual movie-goer into an enlightening cinematic experience and demonstrates that movies can be so much more than just explosions and pretty girls - but they can have those too! This is perhaps the greatest achievement of Inception (and the handful of other films like it); indeed a cunning inception of its own kind, perhaps? 10 out of 10.  |  IP: Logged Patrick de Groot Expert Film Handler Posts: 161 From: Sprang-Capelle, Netherlands Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-27-2010 01:23 PM                     Nice idea, bad execution I really didn't care for the characters on screen. Some very nice fight scenes though, because they are weird (rotating). It didn't feel like dreams. And all dreams were about shooting and fighting. Too much shooting around hitting everything but the good guys... the van is bullet proof or something... Stupid. No suspense and it drags a bit. It was alright and a nice watch. But no master piece. I don't get the high rating at imdb. Is it because the idea is unusual and the director is known? Main plot is lacking. So ok movie.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 07-27-2010 01:28 PM                     quote: Patrick de Groot I don't get the high rating at imdb. Is it because the idea is unusual and the director is known? It's because a lot of people disagree with you. Nothing more.  |  IP: Logged Patrick de Groot Expert Film Handler Posts: 161 From: Sprang-Capelle, Netherlands Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-27-2010 01:38 PM                     Too easy... Did you care for the characters? Did it have suspense? Did it feel like a dream? What did you think of the shootings all the time interrupted by explanations about the dream process? Limbo to increase the risk? All shootings because of the defense system? No wet dreams neither Nice watch... but no 9'ner.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 07-27-2010 01:53 PM                     Lets just say you don't even have to go to imdb to find a bunch of people who loved the movie... you're in the minority here too and you only need to scroll up a little to see a long review that is a 10 out of 10. Maybe I'm in a bad mood from having exams coming up, but this notion of "I don't like X so all the people who do must have some ulterior motive behind why they say they like it" is just bullshit. And yes: I found the characters engaging, the dream parts did seem dream-like to me, and I thought the shootings were well-explained as to why they were going on.  |  IP: Logged Stu Jamieson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 524 From: Buccan, Qld, Australia Registered: Jan 2008 posted 07-27-2010 04:54 PM                     Has anyone else stumbled across the subtle clue hidden in plain sight which is present in the soundtrack over the final credits?  |  IP: Logged Patrick de Groot Expert Film Handler Posts: 161 From: Sprang-Capelle, Netherlands Registered: Apr 2001 posted 07-28-2010 02:45 PM                     http://www.irishtimes.com/blogs/screenwriter/2010/07/21/the-strange-business-of-the-imdb-250/  |  IP: Logged Stu Jamieson Jedi Master Film Handler Posts: 524 From: Buccan, Qld, Australia Registered: Jan 2008 posted 07-28-2010 05:04 PM                     The problem with these lists (as with all other "audience" polls like those on radio and TV) is that they only ever reflect the particular demographic accessing that particular media. So as any kind of of serious cross section of opinion, they can be dismissed immediately. I imagine avid fans of All About Eve are not your typical IMDB patron.  |  IP: Logged Chris Slycord Film God Posts: 2986 From: 청주시, 경북도, South Korea Registered: Mar 2007 posted 07-28-2010 06:20 PM                     Exactly. The author assumes that the people voting for Inception are the same people voting against Twilight in the thought that the same demographics access any section of the website. Like if I had a site where people conducted polls, you could conclude that the political polls were mostly voted on by teenagers because you noticed that kids voted in the "Who's your favorite pop star?" sections.  |  IP: Logged Joe Redifer You need a beating today Posts: 12859 From: Denver, Colorado Registered: May 99 posted 07-30-2010 12:54 AM                        The video below makes fun of the ending. If you haven't seen Inception, the video won't make any sense and you'll be wasting your time watching it. But for those who have seen it: http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1939234  |  IP: Logged

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