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Keegan O'Brien
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From: Eugene, Oregon, United States
Registered: Sep 2011


 - posted 12-31-2011 05:55 PM      Profile for Keegan O'Brien   Email Keegan O'Brien   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
quote: Jonathan Goeldner
actually 'Girl' was shot in Red Epic (5K) there was some press news that Sony is releasing this in actual 4K - was this also released in DLP 4K??
Dragon Tattoo was primarily shot with the Red One MX, with some scenes being shot with the Epic. However, the Red Epic won't produce a 5K image. It has a 5K sensor. It'd be like Sony advertising their new F65 as an 8K camera because it has an 8K sensor. The actual resolution of the image you can pull from the Epic is just over 4K after it goes through the debayering process. However, the resolution of Dragon Tattoo is lower than that anyway, since A.) Red One MX max's out a 3.7K, and B.) Fincher shoots with a heavy crop to give him enough space to re-frame an image in post if he so chooses. See image below.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwmo64Hu6a1qchowc.jpg

This results in a loss of 1/3 the resolution. He shot The Social Network the same way, and Peter Jackson is using this method on both The Hobbit films as well. And yes, as long as the theater has 4K servers Dragon Tattoo is being shown via DLP 4K as well. As far as I know, the DCP's for DLP's and Sony are the same.

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Justin Hamaker
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 - posted 01-04-2012 02:48 AM      Profile for Justin Hamaker   Author's Homepage   Email Justin Hamaker   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
Finally got around to watching this tonight. Normally I would have loved this movie. It was very well made and told an interesting story. But it pales in comparison to the 2009 Swedish movie.

In most respects, the 2009 film felt more like a real investigation. You saw the characters looking for the evidence and the story behind how the evidence was discovered. A prime example is the photos from the parade. Fincher's film is more of a procedural by comparison. They have the evidence, but there is little story to go with how it is collected.

I also felt like the scene with Lizbeth's old guardian was kind of tacked on with little context to the story. In the Swedish version, the scene with her mother - along with the flashbacks of what she did to her father, help give context to her character.

Don't misunderstand me, Fincher's film is very well made and is one of the best movies from 2011. I just suffers from comparison to better movie.

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Monte L Fullmer
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Stu Jamieson
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 - posted 01-14-2012 07:37 PM      Profile for Stu Jamieson   Email Stu Jamieson   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
The best thing about this American version of The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is that this is Fincher's version of Dragon tattoo. Not being a huge fan of the original film (sure, it was entertaining enough but not a life-changing experience), I met the breaking news of an American remake with a tired groan. However when a competent director as notable as David Fincher gets involved with a project as slovenly as a remake, it demands attention.

The good news is that this new adaptation is as good as the original. The bad news is that it is only as good as the original. The weakness in both these films is the story - I just don't find it greatly interesting. There's a lot of character threads to keep track of (a fact, ironically, articulated directly by Christopher Plummer's character in the film) and the pay off for juggling this multitude of components simply doesn't pay off in the end. It certainly doesn't live up to Fincher's utterly brilliant rock video prologue which plays like some nightmarish, f*cked-up 007 opening credits sequence. It's truly breathtaking.

The second best thing about this film is Rooney Mara. Fincher has clearly recognised something special in Mara whilst working previously with her in The Social Network, something which was not readily apparent up on the screen. Nor was it apparent in her breakout film, the remake of A Nightmare on Elm St - I don't even remember her in that film despite occupying the lead role of Nancy! But in the remake Dragon Tattoo, she single-handedly knocks it out of the park. After Noomi Rapace made the role her own in the previous film, Mara does a wonderful job carving out a place for herself in this work. She's a magnetic screen presence possessing an intensity which conveys this lonely, damaged, explosively feministic individual with remarkable subtlety. We are madly in love with her and petrified of her at the same time.

Mara's Swedish accent is also consistently strong in a film where the elocution elsewhere is all over the place or absent completely. Given this variability, one wonders why Swedish accents were attempted at all. An American film full of American accents despite being set in Sweden would have drawn less attention.

David Fincher is a steady hand and a competent director but his films are better when his stories are less conventional - who would have thought, for instance, that a story about the founding of Facebook could be so fascinating. The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo is closer to Zodiac for me; competently made and entertaining but not a world changer. The truth is, I found myself wanting to like this more than I actually did.

7.5 out of 10

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Louis Bornwasser
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I am certain that the symbols and characters in this story are allegorical of the history of modern Europe. As an American, I do not know the exact similarities, but the name "Lisbeth" is no accident. Louis

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Paul Linfesty
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I have a question about the sound mix. I saw it tonight at the Regal Edwards Marketplace 14 in Bakersfield on one of their recently converted 4K auditoriums. It seemed every single left or right screen sound source was coming from the left surround of right surround while the end credits had music that seemed to mostly be coming from the surrounds as well. Was this on purpose? Or did this theatre screw up the osund assignments?

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