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Marcel Birgelen
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 - posted 10-20-2015 03:30 PM      Profile for Marcel Birgelen   Email Marcel Birgelen   Send New Private Message       Edit/Delete Post 
This one turned out better than expected. Not everybody seems to like Matt Damon, for whatever reason, but I do think he is a fine actor and managed to portray a believable "Mark Watney".

quote: Mike Blakesley
One thing that sort of irritated me was the phony-looking zero-gravity scenes, in which the astronauts flew around like Superman, taking off and changing directions at will and being able to walk around on the ground when they needed to. I don't know why that stood out for me among the (probably) dozens of incorrect scientific details but it did. And the depiction of gravity on Mars, too, was pretty variable, considering it has a gravitational pull just one-third of Earth's.
As far as I remember, they only sit and walk in space in the centrifugal sections of the space ship. On such a long mission, having a section with simulated gravity would make a lot of sense.

The depiction of gravity on Mars itself is indeed a bit sloppy in general. I guess it was just to expensive to get this right.

Besides some nitpicking on some minor factual errors, there were a few problems which did bother me:

- I doubt there could ever be a storm on Mars, so strong it would be able to move debris of the size depicted, let alone pushing over an entire space craft. The atmosphere is far to thin, it might be capable of moving dust, but that's about it.
- Using duct tape (even if it's the type of super-strong tape they use for temporary aircraft repairs) and some plastic sheets to fix a giant hole in your habitat just doesn't cut it. It didn't even budge after re-pressurization.

The movie did have an Atmos sound track. But, unfortunately, it didn't really put the system to good use. Compared to Gravity, this mix was an amateur job.

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Mike Blakesley
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quote: Marcel Birgelen
As far as I remember, they only sit and walk in space in the centrifugal sections of the space ship. On such a long mission, having a section with simulated gravity would make a lot of sense.
I thought about that. It just seemed to me that if they needed gravity they had it, and if they didn't need it, they didn't. Plus they did a certain amount of "turns" while floating without grabbing on to things, which wouldn't be possible. But, like I noted above, it wasn't enough to make me not like the movie.

I wondered the same thing about the duct tape and plastic. Seems like you can never get that stuff to stick where you want it, but it always sticks where you don't want it to.

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Monte L Fullmer
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quote: Michael Kurtzke
We can hit that light spec in Theatre 2 when we are playing scope films. We can almost hit it in Theatre 3 with a new lamp (~13Ft L) while playing a scope film.

Sounds like you need a tech out there to re-calibrate the light sensor if you have BARCO's, for I can easily hit 30 plus fL's if I take a BARCO 32B out of CLO mode running a 6k bulb on a 70 ft wide screen. One insane bright picture is the results.

In CLO mode where I have 14Fl's as my goal setting, I'm running that 6K as a 4.5K and only using 3300w of power to reach that goal.

I have a beautiful picture...and buying bulb life.

The 3D content were only 4.5 and 6Fl.

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Michael Kurtzke
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Monte,

We are an all Sony complex! We shoot colours and light levels with a Minolta CS-100 that gets calibrated every year.

We don't run all 6 lamps at 100% in that theatre, or else people's eyes would melt (especially with a 2D Lens installed).

But to keep this topic on track, I just kept wishing this film was shot in 4K. You could really see the stair-stepping on the text.

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Matt Russell
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quote: Michael Kurtzke
I just kept wishing this film was shot in 4K.
The Martian was shot on a Red Dragon camera, which actually shoots in 5K, however, they mastered in 2K during post-production for release. (If you wanna read more about it: http://www.fxguide.com/featured/life-on-mars-the-vfx-of-the-martian/)

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Buck Wilson
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quote:
- I doubt there could ever be a storm on Mars, so strong it would be able to move debris of the size depicted, let alone pushing over an entire space craft. The atmosphere is far to thin, it might be capable of moving dust, but that's about it.
- Using duct tape (even if it's the type of super-strong tape they use for temporary aircraft repairs) and some plastic sheets to fix a giant hole in your habitat just doesn't cut it. It didn't even budge after re-pressurization.

The movie did have an Atmos sound track. But, unfortunately, it didn't really put the system to good use. Compared to Gravity, this mix was an amateur job.

These were my exact complaints as well.

The plastic sheeting... That about ruined the movie for me. No way in hell that pressure that could apparently blow off the entire front of the building could be contained by a hastily hung glorified trash bag.

The Atmos mix disappointed me also.

Overall, I enjoyed the movie. As a huge green thumb, all the botany aspects of the movie excited me.

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Steve Wilson
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I saw this movie twice and I loved it. Acutally, NASA had a lot of input on this movie to get it right at much as possible. Not sure how much, but that was the talk I had heard from those that know more than I do.

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Scott Norwood
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I think that this is my favorite film (video) release this year. Comparisons to Gravity are apt, and it seems that they went to fairly good lengths to get the science right.

Agreed that the duct tape/plastic thing was dumb...if the room were pressurized to 5 psi (as the lunar module was) and the plastic sheeting were 200 sq. inches in size, that would be 1000 lbs. of force on the plastic.

Otherwise, though, I enjoyed the film. It is still doing good business here.

Did 3D add anything to this? I enjoyed it perfectly well in 2D.

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Jonathan Goeldner
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^ as I noted before thought the last 30 minutes was when the 3D proved it was worth it to watch it as such. Amazon notes the release date of the bluray to be January 12, 2016

extras:

Extras:
Signal obtained: writing and directing
Invading Mars: Cast and Costumes
Bloopers
Ares III: Focus Adjustment
Ares III: Farewell
The right thing
Ares: Our greatest adventure
Leave Your Mark
Bring him home
Trailer
Production Gallery

not Atmos or DTS-X on the bluray as Fox doesn't 'do' either.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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I did not see THE MARTIAN in a theatre because I will get the movie on 3D Blu Ray and watch it in 3D at home when it comes out next month

-Claude

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Mike Blakesley
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Too bad - it was a good one to see theatrically.

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Claude S. Ayakawa
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Saw THE MARTIAN tonight at home in 3D from a blu ray disc and it was fantastic and should do well at the Academy Awards. Although the sets and everything about the movie was almost perfect, I noticed one major flaw. During a press conference, the American flag was on the wrong side. The flag should always be on the left and not on the right side as shown in the movie, It must always be to the speakers right.

-Claude

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Joe Redifer
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Holy crap is this movie overrated. Rented this on Blu-ray the other night. The movie gives no time to get to know or feel for the characters. They are thrust into an emergency situation probably less than 2 minutes after the movie begins. The reason for the evacuation also makes no sense. You would think that they would have thought of situations like these and planned for them. Nope. Also the movie jumps from problem to solution in hyper-speed fashion. At no point whatsoever are you left wondering what the hell Matt Damon is going to do to fix his current dilemma. That's because he tells you immediately. Hell sometimes he's telling you the fix before you even know that there's a problem. There's no mystery to the movie at all. Some of the problems are just dumb, like his airlock exploding. The computer actually has the audacity to say "Malfunction" because of a tear? Why wouldn't they build these things better? And why did it tear? It blows up but the plastic tarp is fine? Did they do literally no research before they went to Mars? Seems like it. There was no reason to like any of the characters. But the movie REALLY wanted us to as they tried making the characters "fun". More than once a character is asked to reveal the idea he/she just got. They do not reveal. This bugs me and a lot of mainstream movies do this. It's supposed to be "fun". I want to punch each character in the face like they deserve. It makes them not believable human beings because a real person would mention their idea and not be rude pricks when continuously asked what they're thinking.

The product placement in this movie also bugged me. They never missed a chance to show NASA or JPL logos (even putting them on doors backwards to make sure we can read them). Crap like that really takes me out of the movie.

The movie felt like it was three hours long. Not sure how long it actually was but more than once I kept wondering "How long is this thing?" It also felt like it was ripping off Apollo 13 in more ways than one. Ridley is getting very boring and pedestrian in his old age. If this passes for acceptable then no wonder I don't like watching movies very much any more.

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Frank Cox
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Read the book. It has less plot holes in it and is really top notch.

I liked the movie too -- you just have to take it for what it is, a movie, and not a scientific paper. The book goes into the science a lot more.

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Joe Redifer
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That's the thing, though. The movie goes to great length to show NASA and JPL in every frame so it's harder to suspend disbelief. Also, I don't like books. I just can't get into them especially fiction.

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