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Buck Wilson
Jedi Master Film Handler

Posts: 894
From: St. Joseph MO, USA
Registered: Sep 2010

posted 04-06-2016 01:44 PM

quote: Matt Russell
Personally speaking, I don't know the reason behind the lack of masking for their auditoriums.

Money.

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Marcel Birgelen
Film God

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From: Maastricht, Limburg, Netherlands
Registered: Feb 2012

posted 04-06-2016 03:54 PM

quote: Stu Jamieson
I think you need to see the movie to see what we're getting at, Marcel (I presume you haven't seen it?). Most Disney/Pixars have their moral in the subtext but Zootopia has it right out front. It's one of those movies that delivers it's message directly through the dialogue, y'know, just in case you're a dumbass and somehow missed it. A bit like a joke in a Jim Carrey comedy.

I did see it, back in February already. It's one of the few movies which got an early release around here. Disney and their international release schedules are quite a mystery to me, they probably have their reasons, but that's another story entirely.

I agree that the message it carried was not all that subtle (probably just a slight understatement), but I'm not so sure if it was actually intended to feel so loaded as it does right now. The making of this movie probably started years ago. The fact that the proverbial message of this movie feels so "contemporary" and "political", might also be pure coincidence, since the people that made this movie couldn't have guessed the current political issues around the globe when they started producing it.

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Stu Jamieson
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From: Buccan, Qld, Australia
Registered: Jan 2008

posted 04-06-2016 07:07 PM

Good point, Marcel, and I guess there is a strong geographic element to the themes being pushed.

Here in Australia, all those themes have been kicking around for years and anti-bullying, in particular, has been a strong focus in Australian social policy in very recent times. So, in a way, when it's pushed so overtly in a movie such as this, it feels a bit "done to death".

Personal ideology plays it's part too, of course. Left wingers will think these issues can't be pushed hard enough. Right wingers will be outright offended by them. I'm centre-right so naturally I recognise the importance of the message but feel it could be moderated a tad so as not to insult my intelligence quite so much.

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Bill Brandenstein
Master Film Handler

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From: Santa Clarita, CA
Registered: Jul 2013

posted 04-09-2016 10:27 PM

I'm pretty much as much a right-winger as can be and find it not so much offensive as too obvious and in your face, as already noted many times.

After writing my previous comment, I wondered if I'd stated it too strongly. There's nothing I'd consider harmful in this movie and no reason to keep my kids out of it ("OMG" moments being the slight exception). Nothing wrong with even an overly preachy anti-bullying message. "Love one another" is downright biblical. Just a matter of taste and subtext in how it's carried out.

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Leo Enticknap
Film God

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From: Loma Linda, CA
Registered: Jul 2000

posted 04-10-2016 02:36 PM

Disney making political propaganda is nothing new. Most of the time, they manage to keep it subtle enough, and not such a prominent aspect of the movie, that even if you disagree with the sermon you're being preached, you can still concentrate on other aspects of the film and not get too mad (e.g. the feminist agenda in Cinderella). But I thought that the foregrounding of race and other political topics in Zootopia was blatant enough to at least be irritating.

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